PUP Warns of Imminent Chinese Invasion!
A day after Mr Palmer stoked controversy by describing the Chinese as “bastards” and “mongrels” who shoot their own people, Senator Lambie has released a statement saying she supports her leader’s comments about China’s military capacity.
“If anybody thinks that we should have a national security and defence policy, which ignores the threat of a Chinese Communist invasion – you’re delusional and got rocks in your head,’’ her statement said.
“The Communist Chinese military capacity and level of threat to the western world democracies is at an unprecedented and historical high.”
Her statement concluded by saying that Mr Palmer’s comments “are a timely warning and highlight the appalling national security and defence policy failures of both Labor and the Liberals/Nationals.
Both Labor and the Liberals/Nationals have failed to build an Australian military that is able to defend us – and stop our grandchildren from becoming slaves to an aggressive, anti-democratic, totalitarian foreign power.”
The statement comes as Mr Palmer attempts to play down his outburst on the ABC’s Q and A program.
The controversial politician launched an attack on Australia’s biggest trading partner, labeling the Chinese Government as “mongrels”.
During an appearance on the ABC’s Q and A program on Monday, the Palmer United Party leader also accused the foreign government of trying to take over Australia’s ports and destroying the wage system.
He told viewers that legal allegations against him were untrue and part of a campaign of “bluster”.
“We’ve had three judgements in the Federal Court, The Supreme Court of Western Australia and an arbitration against these Chinese mongrels,” he said.
“I am saying that because they are communists, because they shoot their own people, they haven’t got a justice system and they want to take over this country. And we’re not going to let them do it.”
STANDING UP AGAINST THE CHINESE BASTARDS
The controversial comments followed questions over allegations that the mining magnate siphoned off $12 million in funding from his Chinese business partner, Citicto, to support his federal election campaign.
Mr Palmer dodged the questions, before telling host Tony Jones to go to court if he wanted answers.
“The Chinese government wants to bring workers here and destroy our wage system,” he said.
“It won’t stop the fact that they want to take over our ports…”
“I don’t mind standing up against the Chinese bastards and stopping them doing it.”
theguttertrash.com 
Sen Jacquie Lambie to ABC radio re threat of Chinese invasion, “Tony Abbott’s sleepy, sleepy & I say to the PM wakey, wakey.”
“Tony Abbott’s sleepy, sleepy & I say to the PM wakey, wakey.”
Why oh why isn’t she Foreign Affairs Minister?
Yes, she’d be good at that job ToM.
Yes Lambi has Rocks in her head and is on a Hysterical high… You just can’t make this shit up..right?
This is my new portfolio.
“”You just can’t make this shit up..right?””
I was kinda hoping she was………….
“Yes, she’d be good at that job ToM.”
Why ……………..are there lots of male diplomats hung like donkeys ?
And if the Chinese don’t get us we will all be drowning in our own blood anyway
http://www.smh.com.au/world/islamic-state-message-to-america-we-will-drown-all-of-you-in-blood-20140819-105lv3.html
PUP rant heard in the majestic halls of the Middle Kingdom.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2014-08/19/content_18447243.htm
And as if the Chinese and the Crazy Muslims are not enough for one day Julian Assange might be shortly thrown into the Media Mix
Dog help us all
Time to bring back the Brisbane Line.
l have to say l`m enjoying the teabag-media pantywetting that clive has started 🙂 #go-clive
It’s about time, someone’s finally telling it like it is.
Beware the Yellow Peril!
Go Clivey! 🙄
I think they mean “willy wanker”
http://www.news.com.au/world/rolf-harris-is-being-nicknamed-willy-wonka-by-fellow-inmates-because-he-gives-them-chocolate/story-fndir2ev-1227029620415
Reb I hope he end up as the prison bitch and a sperm spittoon for a big hairy biker the filthy bastard.
Another Wang Ker.. apparently Clives brain fart was the medias faulet and was taken out of context, despite going live on national TV
http://www.smh.com.au/national/its-the-medias-fault-wang-on-palmer-chinese-bastard-comment-20140819-105u3w.html
that`s right Tinfoil`osy,
they`re back under the beds don`tcha know
This is a very important topic.
The trouble with the imminent Chinese invasion is the size of the army.
It may be 100, 200, 300 or even 400 million strong. How do we defeat something like that??
We will run out of bullets. Once we have run out of bullets what do we do next??
“We will run out of bullets. Once we have run out of bullets what do we do next??”
Chuck yonnies?
😯
250 to 280 million, last l heard
Psst, Neil.
First of all, a Chinese invasion is not “imminent”.
Second, there is the small matter of transporting troops, unmolested, all the way from China to (even) the northernmost parts of Australia.
Third, is the problem of moving troops – even if they could get here – from town to town, city to city, all the while keeping up supplies of fuel, ammo, and food. Pretty much impossible.
(An “invasion” from within is much more feasible, but still highly unlikely.)
l also enjoyed the comedy styling of dio wang
http://www.smh.com.au/national/its-the-medias-fault-wang-on-palmer-chinese-bastard-comment-20140819-105u3w.html
#go-wang
on return from scotlandia, mr-rabbit was welcomed home by the teabag-supporters
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-16/the-undead-invade-hobart-again/5675932
misogyny is in the eye of the beholder
http://m.news.com.au/MostPopularNews/fi12044392.htm
Premier Xi said China is not interested in aggression, we come in peace to trade.
These days large standing armies are useless and China, along with the rest of the world, is downsizing. So Neil’s concerns are misplaced.
Late last year China admitted their nuclear submarine fleet could take out every capital city in the US, but they would rather not.
Eventually they will rule the world, mainly because nobody else wants the job. Their greatest asset is revolutionary zeal.
Chuck yonnies?
Fart in their general direction.
China is also keen to have multilateral military exercises with many countries in the region, as a bulwark against terrorism and as a force to assist people caught up in natural disasters.
The trouble with the imminent Chinese invasion
😯
Fart in their general direction.
But what will we do should it turn out that their mothers are not in fact hampsters?
On the upside, the pups are making the libs look quite respectable, which doesn’t say much about either of them
And the Jihadists also think Abbott is shit, which can only be a good thing.
‘A #BoycottTeamAustralia campaign was being supported on social media…’
A short while ago TR we agreed the budget emergency was not, and here is reasonable proof.
‘TREASURY figures have punctured claims of a crisis over the passage of the federal budget by revealing that 98.9 per cent of expense measures are already legislated despite a savage political fight over a handful of reforms.’
Crowe / Oz
The evidence is in, Clive Palmer is a bombastic egotistical dill, his senators… hastily thrown together and clearly without adequate background checks.
Palmer’s mob doesn’t represent any new way, they’re an embarassment.
It always seems to start in Queensland.
Yeah, probably just a coincidence.
A short while ago TR we agreed the budget emergency was not
You might have agreed a short while ago, I never believed their trumped up crap. It is also interesting that they say “expense measures”. My understanding was that it was the measures that improve the bottom line that haven’t got through, the “expense measures” were passed before the measures that actually are supposed to pay for them.
Chaotic, shambolic gubmint.
A #BoycottTeamAustralia campaign was being supported on social media
It is in a deadly for for survival with #TeamMannequin
http://www.dailylife.com.au/news-and-views/dl-opinion/sydneys-muslim-land-a-locals-perspective-20140819-3dyfv.html
Clive Palmer is a bombastic egotistical dill
I AGREE!
“It always seems to start in Queensland.”
Doesn’t it just.
I blame the heat… And the fact that it’s mostly bogans who live there.
Did ToM and I mention that Melbourne is the world’s most livable city?
“most livable city”
What does that mean? A city that appeals to this class of tosser? A greater variety of amenities targeted at gentrified inner city types? More high-culture masterbatoriums for the wankers who live there? More types of designer coffee for the latte set?
Did ToM and I mention that Melbourne is the world’s most livable city?
Awwww … that’s noice …. 🙂
What’s the weather like in Melbourne?
What’s it like now?
What’s it like now?
And now?
Brissy … bright sunshine, clear blue sky, light SE sea breeze … temp 20 degrees C …
Weatherwise Sydney is a capital city.
The weather in Melbourne is more often than not shite. So the citizens content themselves wih lounging about in their ever-so-trendy cafes stroking each others’ er, um .. egos and bitching about the rest of the country.
Do I detect a hint of sour grapes?
On the upside, the pups are making the libs look quite respectable, which doesn’t say much about either of them
I actually see that as a downside, TR, takes the heat of the Libs … Mathias Cormann was still spouting the same old crap on Lateline last night … first time I’ve seen a Lib Minister on the show since the Budget was announced … thanks to Clive I’d say …
Go Clivey, Soon!
It appears that sloppy Joe’s been told to lay low with Cormann left to salvage whatever’s left of the budget fallout.
I stand corrected – He’s fronting the media to take a pot shot at big Clive.
And to think I thought Swan was the worst treasurer of recent times. I knew Hockey was a fool but he has well and truly exceeded expectations on that score.
It’s hilarious the way northerners talk about the weather.
I used to live in Sydney. On 1 June people would start wearing a scarf and overcoat, even though it was 20+. They’d perspire walking around in their new winter wear. They really wanted some cool weather.
In Brisbane it’s hot and intolerably humid in summer and winter is only a little less humid. Fashion in Brisbane is a pair of new brown sandals and a singlet with a different beer logo.
Melbourne has a winter climate ideal for hearty French or Italian food with plenty of good red.
That’s most ‘livable’
Indeed SB.
“I stand corrected – He’s fronting the media to take a pot shot at big Clive.”
Pot, kettle much? We are certainly blessed with a surfeit of buffons these days.
The grapes are very sweet in Sydney.
😆
Pot, kettle much? We are certainly blessed with a surfeit of buffons these days.
Hear! Hear!
The grapes are very sweet in Sydney. Chuckle …
However the BS quickly sours them … 🙂
“”Melbourne has a winter climate ideal for hearty French or Italian food with plenty of good red. “”
Speaking of which whilst out last night we partook of a very nice French Claret
I popped in here last night – http://www.chezolivier.com.au/
With a great bottle of shiraz.
Shiraz, Greville St and great food, that’s why it’s so liveable here!
Tony Abbott says Clive Palmer’s comments regarding China are ‘over the top, shrill and wrong’
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-20/abbott-criticises-palmer-over-shrill-china-comments/5683438
(says the ‘over the top, shrill and wrong’ previous opposition leader)
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Go Clivey, Soon!
Unfortunately, we are stuck with him for as long at least as we are stuck with tabot.
I just find it amusing that tabot has to deal with someone as ‘over the top, shrill and wrong’ as Gillard and Rudd had to contend with.
Difference is, the media are no friends of this clown.
I can just see how well the libs will go trying to smooth thngs over with the Chinese, as all pup said out loud is what they have been dog whistling about for years. The Chinese aren’t stupid.
‘The Chinese aren’t stupid.’
Bishop has been beating the strategic encirclement drum with the Americans, which is stupid considering China is our biggest trading partner.
It seems obvious now but the raft of promises for a “stronger economy” and “fixing the budget mess” were mere platitudes with no policy substance behind them.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/18/clueless-coalition-floundering-while-budget-bottom-line-worsens?CMP=twt_gu
Sorry Kouk, it seemed obvious then too
More known news
Proposed Abbott Government changes to the welfare system will demotivate rather than assist people in work, a parliamentary inquiry has been told.
https://newmatilda.com/2014/08/19/welfare-changes-will-be-counter-productive-senate-inquiry-hears
Another day, another broken promise.
”Tony Abbott is about to celebrate his first year in office with yet another broken election promise.
”There are no bulldozers either – just clouds of bulldust from Mr Abbott and bungling Infrastructure Minister Warren Truss … no work has commenced on the handful of new projects put forward by his government.”
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/abbotts-oneyear-roads-promise-about-to-be-broken-20140819-3dyry.html
I want my $550!
Major polluting companies believe a carbon price will be reintroduced in Australia some time in the future, according to the first business survey released after its repeal.
The survey of major Australian energy, mining, construction and manufacturing firms also found that 77 per cent of those who responded did not believe the repeal of the carbon price scheme was likely to reduce their overall costs.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/carbon-tax-will-be-back-industry-believes-20140819-105uj1.html
It’s kinda cry or laugh
lol reb. Are shadows prescient? 😉
“”…. 77 per cent of those who responded did not believe the repeal of the carbon price scheme was likely to reduce their overall costs.”
ROFLMAO
“”overall costs”………………….how about Energy Costs ?
‘As a result of the carbon repeal, we estimate that our New South Wales electricity customers in your billing class will this year on average save 7% on electricity based on the average total energy bill.’
Origin
Unfortunately, we are stuck with him for as long at least as we are stuck with tabot.Unfortunately, we are stuck with him for as long at least as we are stuck with tabot.
A bit longer … with any luck … Abbott should go before Clivey!
Go Clivey, Soon!
the Long Shadow of Adolf Hitler
I keep sayin’ history repeats itself … although Putin looks nothing like Stalin … chortle …
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
we estimate that our New South Wales electricity customers in your billing class will this year on average save 7%
I’ll believe that when I see it … wait for the weasel words they are being typed by Origin as I write this comment …
I’ve just become a big fan of Adam Hills …
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/adam-hills-epic-rant-at-westboro-baptist-church-after-their-threat-to-picket-robin-williams-memorial/story-e6frfmyi-1227030678878
Indeed
I recon Jacquie Lambie makes Pauline Hanson look like a genius.
Electricity Prices in NSW are determined by IPART not the provider
According to the Brisbane Times, after the G20 meeting Clive has organised some kind of conference at his fun park and is confident world leaders will attend.
Clive does it as part of his bullying style with a bit of an eye on whatever his hidden agenda is at that moment in time.
But Jackie Lambie actually believes what she is saying.
A Queenslander born in Victoria and a Tasmanian.
Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark………………………How the fuck did we end up at this destination in our History
.how about Energy Costs ?
I want my $550!
Here’s a hint. We got told things were going to be CHEAPER, not simply transferring one cost to another.
I want my $550!
Dunno, its all so cringe worthy. Its worth a DD just to clear the decks of swill.
How the fuck did we end up at this destination in our History
Do you really want me to repeat it? 😯
Its worth a DD just to clear the decks of swill.
Election Now! ❓ 😯
“Do you really want me to repeat it?”
Allow me…………………………………..Rudd/Gillard/Rudd
Electricity Prices in NSW are determined by IPART not the provider …
Close, Wally, but NYC, I’m afraid … devil, as always, is in the detail of you comments …
Clive does it as part of his bullying style with a bit of an eye on whatever his hidden agenda is at that moment in time.
LOL!
Dunno, its all so cringe worthy. Its worth a DD just to clear the decks of swill.
Occasionally you crack* the code, egg …
But I’m afraid The Robber Barons haven’t finished with us yet … as the nation crumbles … they don’t care … one focus and one focus only … $$$
*intentional 🙂
“We got told things were going to be CHEAPER”
Yep………………..cheaper than they might otherwise be
Yes but most state governments go by the iPART recommendations. Witness Origin Energy screaming blue murder around 18 months ago in Queensland
It might help with your credibility if you include the full sentence…………….
“IPART is the independent regulator that determines the maximum prices that can be charged for certain retail energy, water and transport services in New South Wales. We also determine local government rates. To ensure the quality and reliability of these services, we monitor service delivery, audit suppliers and oversee licence compliance by certain water utilities and retail energy suppliers.””
“Yes but most state governments go by the iPART recommendations.””
I meant to say the equivalent of IPART
Granted Wally … but this is the Google splurge (by IPART) …
https://www.google.com.au/?gws_rd=ssl#newwindow=1&q=IPART
Witness Origin Energy screaming blue murder around 18 months ago in Queensland
Origin shat in its own nest and lost thousands of customers – including us … we refused the crawling offers to return to ..
I still can’t figure out why we need a bunch of “retailers” skimming the pot … if the supply of electricity is a government responsibility how hard is it to calculate maintenance and admin costs and set pricing accordingly … just like the IPART or its equivalent …
A third party only adds to the cost … fkn stupid … unless you want to become the 51st State of the Septic Tanks … and there seems to be a few of you around …
And (in case ToSy is watching) in other fossil fuel news Woodside Petroleum announced a rather good result today.
And increased its dividend
Yippeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !
Allow me………………………………….. to get it wrong again 😉
Yep………………..cheaper than they might otherwise be
well, two things,
1. They told us it would be cheaper. not cheaper than they might otherwise be.
2. 77 per cent of those who responded did not believe the repeal of the carbon price scheme was likely to reduce their overall costs (ie, it aint “cheaper than they might otherwise be”. It’s no bloody different.)
I want my $550!
And (in case ToSy is watching) in other fossil fuel news Woodside Petroleum …
Speaking of with a bit of an eye on whatever his hidden agenda is at that moment in time.
And (in case ToSy is watching) in other fossil fuel news Woodside Petroleum announced a rather good result today.
The “clue” being “fossil fuel” … Robber Baron LNP supporters … still a’viking …
No…………..I read that to say any reduction in Energy Costs will still not compensate for other Overheads rising (usually diue to additional Trade Extortion demands).
Hence the termïnology “överall”
“(usually diue to additional Trade Extortion demands). “”
Oooops……………should read … (usually due to additional Trade Union Extortion demands).
(usually due to additional Trade Union Extortion demands).
Weasel words …
Hence the termïnology “överall” see the viking leak … with the umlaut?
So many clues …
Weasel words …
Well, when you have nothing else…..
I want my $550!
Rumour has it that PM Kevin Rudd once called the Chinese ‘dirty little rat fuckers”.
Scaper has ‘lodged a complaint to the Human Rights Commission under Section 18c’ against Clive.
(Decidedly off-topic, and side-stepping <a href="aspects of the side-lined issue of human rights with Chinese characteristics; but, if InfrastructureInfrastructureInfrastructure is so good, and opens up such a world of possibilities for freer trade and commerce and longstay tourism, why do some disagreeable Uyghur and Tibetan people apparently manifest such a sharp response to/from PLA countrymen and to transit stations?)
(Decidedly off-topic, and side-stepping aspects of the side-lined issue* of human rights with Chinese characteristics; but, if InfrastructureInfrastructureInfrastructure is so good, and opens up such a world of possibilities for freer trade and commerce and longstay tourism, why do some disagreeable Uyghur and Tibetan people apparently manifest such a sharp response to/from PLA countrymen and to transit stations?)
Its just the way of things, a new empire demands a modicum of subservience. The Romans brought civilisation to Britain, which was nice, but the locals eventually regained control of their own destiny.
So what is happening in Uyghur is just the beginning of a long civilising process, which should be better for future generations. We can quibble over the inhumanity, especially in regards to Tibet, but ultimately a better educated and healthier populace is not a bad thing in itself.
Well, the libs budget must be a total fucking mess, as the libs and their media mates have gone full court with leadershit.
Think we will have at least another two years of it too. Entrails.
Meanwhile, even Treasury is exposing the deliberate lies we were told by the libs.
I also see that ltd news has splashed the picture of the journalist being beheaded across their pages. After the family had begged for this not to happen.
Unconscionable bastards that they are.
Budget ‘not that tough’ says Stevens, and there is a need need for fiscal reform. The Reserve is the authority on the subject and its not for me to dissect the entrails.
“Well, the libs budget must be a total fucking mess”
If it is a mess it is because they were handed a mess. A mess is not easy to clean up.
And please don’t post any links showing future forecasts before Labor lost office.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/labor-urged-to-apologise-over-newsletter-boasting-it-had-delivered-a-budget-surplus/story-e6frf7kx-1226572053433
“THE Opposition has called on Labor to apologise for using taxpayers money to send newsletters to households boasting it had “delivered” a Budget surplus.
Five days before Christmas, Treasurer Wayne Swan said a surplus was “unlikely” after the Government promised more than 500 times it would be delivered.
In Parliament, Victorian Liberals Tony Smith and Kelly O’Dwyer sought to embarrass Labor by revealing newsletters said the Budget was “back in surplus on time as promised”
There is an interesting reply to one of the more recent NBN hatchet jobs
In my view, all of these assertions are incorrect, and this taints the credibility of the audit.
In reality, the panel spent many hours discussing and analysing the technology options and the upgrade paths, including those set out in the various proposals submitted by companies in response to the government’s Request for Proposals (RFP). The panel also independently evaluated other models for upgrades.
The panel, which included telecommunications experts from both industry and academia, carefully scrutinised all advice it received, and drew heavily on its combined experience. Some advice was very helpful and some was considered to be of little value.
http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2014/8/20/technology/defence-full-fibre-nbn?utm_source=exact&utm_medium=email&utm_content=870460&utm_campaign=pm&modapt
And please don’t post any links showing future forecasts before Labor lost office
reality is awkward isn’t it 😉
Medibank scheme may lead to US-style ‘disaster’, warns Australian Medical Association
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/medibank-scheme-may-lead-to-usstyle-disaster-warns-australian-medical-association-20140820-1068xr.html
“reality is awkward isn’t it”
I really do not understand your thinking. I could post lots of forecasts from 2008-2013 and not one of them is correct. Swans first budget forecast was for a surplus of $21B and it ended up being a $27B deficit. A $48B turnaround.
I think it is time we put peoples salaries based on their forecasts. It they get it right to within 10% they get a bonus. If they get it wrong they get a pay cut. Using that protocol Swan would not be getting a salary.
The Mothership assures me that this is not a UFO …
http://www.news.com.au/technology/hundreds-of-people-report-seeing-a-ufo-over-houston-texas/story-e6frfrnr-1227031236832
I could post lots of forecasts from 2008-2013 and not one of them is correct.
But you readily accept the LNP BS … 🙄
Asfkntoundingly hypocritical as usual …
“…. After the family had begged for this not to happen.
Unconscionable bastards that they are.”
Oh dear………………………TomR……………………..another day and yet a new set of lies from you.
Or do you not know the difference between a video and a still photo these days ?
“Please honor James Foley and respect my family’s privacy. Don’t watch the video. Don’t share it. That’s not how life should be.—
Kelly Foley (@ke11yfoley)””
I could post lots of forecasts from 2008-2013 and not one of them is correct.
I could do the same from decades back. However, it is what we work with, imperfect forecasting.
But, the graph dispels the lie about Labor having no plan to reduce the deficit.
Or do you not know the difference between a video and a still photo these days ?
Wow, just wow 😯
His sister, Kelly Foley, took to Twitter asking others not to watch the video or share it in any form.
Wow………..Wow…………………..your link clearly does not quote her
Otherwise you may as well condemn the Press and TV throughout the World (Not just News Limited) since various stills were on TV last night.
Clearly it means “any form” of excerpts of the video
Wow……..LOL………………….since when have you believed the CNS (Catholic News Service) ?
Clearly it means “any form” of excerpts of the video
Wow, just wow 😯
for wally the pedant
CHICAGO (CBS) — The chief executive officer of Twitter says the social media service is actively suspending accounts that post images or video of the execution of an American journalist by Islamic extremists.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/08/20/twitter-suspending-accounts-that-show-images-of-james-foley-execution/
Even twitter is behaving better than murdoch (not surprising really)
‘The Mothership assures me that this is not a UFO …’
What have they got against ‘flying cigars’?
Yes……….run……………..run……………………run………………….TomR
Your original statement said the FAMILY.
Since when has Twitter been the Family ?
(Not even frames…
…of the appears-to-have-the-hallmarks-of and being-verified VDO allowed? )
Since when has Twitter been the Family ?
Wow, just wow 😯
The family tweeted they did not want the video to be viewed, in any from. Sorry if they didn’t get specific about grabbing image stills from it and plastering across front pages, but perhaps they didn’t factor in the murdoch pedantry of weaseling away from it.
Un-fucking-conscionable
for wally the pedant
What a Fuckwit™ argument, Wally – even for you – and the markets not performing too bad at the moment … got a headache or somefin”? Wrong time of the month?
Wrong time of the month?
Is there a right time for wally?
(If freedom-fighters were wont to be extracting assets and/or excising cancer [Obama urges action to halt Isis ‘cancer’ as UK steps up fight against jihadists] on furtive forays into the field, what kind of regular- or irregular-issue oversize-scalpels would be authorized for use in opening tin-cans?)
“”The family tweeted they did not want the video to be viewed, in any from””
No they didn’t
Would you now like to talk about Carbon Taxes and Carbon Prices ?
Would you now like to talk about Carbon Taxes and Carbon Prices
I’ve never been afraid of that discuassion. Are you still confused over it? 😉
(Shock v. Awe.)
“But you readily accept the LNP BS”
I would trust forecasts under Hockey more than i do forecasts under Swan. Swans first forecast is hard to beat. Swan said we would get a $21B surplus and we got $27B DEFICIT.
I think i understand politicians. But i don’t trust the ALP at all.
The World’s Friendliest City ??????????????????????????????
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/two-women-filmed-in-astounding-clumsy-brawl-on-melbourne-train-platform-both-fall-on-tracks/story-fnii5smt-1227031139366
They were probably catching a train back to the Gold Coast.
Maybe they are refugees from Sydney following the closing of this fine venue.
It’s interesting how friendliness can escalate. That little altercation is just started with–
“After you”
“No please, after you”
“Really, I insist, after YOU!”
“NO!!”
It’s just an indication of how good manners can get out of hand in this friendly city!
** chuckle **
Meta these jihadist rats need to be hunted down and sent back to Syria where they were doing a fine job. Good thing we didn’t supply them with sophisticated weaponry to bring down a tyrant.
It’s just an indication of how good manners can get out of hand in this friendly city!
And obviously peopled by Dickwits® … 😉
Meanwhile, tempers flare in Brisbane because the temperature is permanently set to ‘baste’
It’s a hot, humid city, that is an hour+ from the nearest beach.
No wonder Brisbane doesn’t rate as ‘friendly’ or ‘liveable’
A topic competition tread perhaps – ‘What caused the argument?’
*’I like McDonalds’ – ‘No, KFC is far better’
*’Ugg boots’ – ‘No moccasins are classier’
TB a few months ago there was a flap on Mars and Curiosity captured the drama, and they were all cigar shaped.
“It’s a hot, humid city”
Yes, and that doesn’t stop people from wearing polyester either.
The salivation began a while ago by the looks, and doesn’t look like letting up
When this investigation is finalised, one of two things will happen. Either charges will be laid, which will be a disaster for Labor, or charges will not be laid, and the complainant may make her story public, which will be a disaster for Labor.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/labors-looming-disasters-a-golden-opportunity-for-coalition/story-e6frg6n6-1227026029199
In an interview published by a national newspaper on Thursday, the alleged victim was quoted as saying “I think anybody who hears my story will know I am telling the truth … I never want to see his face again.”
It is – potentially – a short step from those sentiments to a tell-all interview. Those comments, and that possibility, will not have escaped the notice of Shorten or his advisors.
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/bill-shorten-faces-up-to-rape-allegations-by-attempting-to-speak-out-first-20140821-106v0r.html
And Paul Kelly ranted about the “debasement” of politics. He’s part of the team doing the bloody “debasement”
Wow, they offered tabot a fig leaf, and he rejected it
Prime Minister Tony Abbott has rejected a proposal by doctors to exempt pensioners from a $7 GP fee, but has left open the possibility of negotiating over whether children’s visits were charged.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/gp-fee-tony-abbott-rejects-ama-proposal-to-exempt-pensioners-20140821-106w3t.html
ROFL. ltdnews complains about leaks of selective titbits ROFL
The leak, published in Crikey, was different only in that the material contained substantial unfiltered data which showed a whole picture rather than the selective briefing process of my day. I haven’t reviewed the numbers since I left News in August 2013, but I imagine they reveal much which has been suspected as to trends in the media.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/kim-williams-calls-news-corp-leaks-a-festival-of-vengeance-20140821-106r64.html
http://www.afr.com/p/national/cartoon_gallery_david_rowe_1g8WHy9urgOIQrWQ0IrkdO
So my TV was graced with the presence of that mealy mouthed moron pell last night on Lateline’s brief coverage of the RC into Child Abuse …
First he likened the Catholic Church to a “trucking company” and its priests as the “drivers” therefore the church had no responsibility for what the
driverspriests did, just as the trucking company would have no responsibility if a driver picked up a young lady and the driver then did something wrong …Well pell, dope of the decade … if the CC was a trucking company:
† The company would have policies and procedures forbidding picking up young ladies or any other hitch-hikers .
† If the drivers broke those policies they would be fired and reported to the authorities.
† If between 2% and 8% drivers were carrying out illegal actions then the AFP/State police would be very interested. And more than likely civil corporate authorities.
† And the trucking company would have a duty of care to ensure its drivers and trucks did not harm the public !
† The church had no policies, did not report the offences, did not dismiss the priests (they just moved their “drivers” to a different “run” so they could pick up more “young ladies”).
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pell also came across as a monetary moron …
He was questioned over the Melbourne Solution Slush Fund (let’s call it what it is) …
† He said he had been told – the $50,000 ceiling in 1986 would be the equivalent of $120,000 in today’s money …
† Counsel then advised pell that it had been raised to $75,000 and that therefore was a backward step …
† pell then replied no, it was obviously a forward step …
(At this stage my mouth was pretty wide open … )
Conclusions:
† pell epitomises the centuries of abuse on ordinary people that this organisation has been responsible for … the Crusades (which we suffer today), centuries of war in Europe, the plundering of the Americas, the witchcraft pogroms, inquisitions (that continue today) to child abuse – as the church became weaker it picked on the weakest and less able to fight back …
† pell demonstrates that the Catholic Church is still locked into the 14th Century … he’s a now a Member of the Board in the biggest fucking* company in the world!
† The Vatican did for pell what he had done for all those recalcitrant, recidivist bastards who called themselves men of God raping and kiddie fiddling around the diocese … they simply moved him on because of his incompetence …
† pell lives in the Vatican because he fears the truth … although I doubt anyone would try to nail him … he gets a pretty easy ride …
† And finally … if the Catholic Church can be likened to a trucking company … then they should pay taxes!
“………….He’s part of the team doing the bloody “debasement”…………””
You mean ……………..
Publicity given to LNP scandals = Good and should be encouraged
Publicity given to ALP scandals = Bad as they should be covered up and the Press silenced
Publicity given to ALP scandals
You misinterpret “scandal” with “smear” 😉
“Beheadings occur routinely in Game of Thrones. And no complaint has been laid. Why then all the fuss? ”
– Bob Ellis (ALP Living Treasure)
Just goes to show what a dope ellis is
HBO is groveling for mercy after airing a grisly scene starring the head of George W Bush.
http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/us-news-blog/2012/jun/14/game-of-thrones-george-w-bush-head
(Fascinating. While a younger mr-rabbit was punching holes in walls and threatening chair-things; an up and coming young shortmen may have been practicing the art of rape. We can feel reassured that no matter which `team` we have ruling over us, a consistent standard of misogyny will be applied, l suppose.)
“……….an up and coming young shortmen may have been practicing the art of rape.”
Are you implying he might have since perfected it ?
Wow look what happens now the Coalition is in power. An inquisition has begun over a mess Labor created. Nothing but silence when Gillard was in power.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/immigration/scott-morrison-clashes-with-inquiry-head-talks-of-moral-burden-of-immigration-job/story-fn9hm1gu-1227032906665?nk=23b1fb8bd12156c726e9017647820cf5
“Mr Morrison expressed disappointment the commission had not sought testimony from his four Labor predecessors, given more than 8469 children arrived in Australia by boat during the Labor years.
“I invite the commission to rectify this situation by extending an invitation to my predecessors,’’ he urged.
Under the Abbott government, more children had been released from detention than put in, he said.”
I knew this would happen. Labor locks up record numbers of people and the usual suspects are generally silent. Out they all come when Abbott gets into power.
Everyone of these children was locked up but the ALP/Greens and the people who voted for them.
While a younger mr-rabbit was punching holes in walls and threatening chair-things; an up and coming young shortmen may have been practicing the art of rape.
There is one difference
Everyone (but tabot) has agreed that he did in fact punch the wall.
Nobody agrees about the accusations (smear) of the other.
It is passing strange that nothing was said from the alleged victim until Shorten got to be leader of the ALP. The Thickens plot?
Hey Squeal you utter contemptuous Cunt…
Labor were politicising drug cheats?
Like I said Doping is Rife and ASADA are brave to hit it head on and this fucktard masquerading as a Leader is just an opportunistic asswipe…
ASADA…. vindicated
Kate Lundy…. Correct
Gillard… Brave and Correct
Hadley…cunt fiberal puppet
Jones….cunt fiberal puppet
Sharks …Guilty as charged
Essendon…very fucking guilty and next head on the block
Fiberals… nowhere
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-21/five-cronulla-sharks-players-offered-deals-by-asada/5686314
You forgot something Ricky
Australian Sport = 99% Falsely Accused
“”Everyone (but tabot) has agreed that he did in fact punch the wall.””
Really ?…………………..who saw it ?
Gillian Triggs of the Human Rights Commission (or whatever the idiot is called) had a rather embarrassing exchange with Scott Morison this afternoon.
Talk about hoisted by her own petard…………………… ROFLMAO
‘The Thickens plot?’
Only in your head.
‘Talk about hoisted by her own petard…………’
It was terrific, I felt a warm glow all over.
– Bob Ellis (ALP Living Treasure)
Fuckwits™ abound in politics but I wouldn’t get too cocky, Wally .. there seems to be far more on your side of the playground …
Out they all come when Abbott gets into power.
Do you actually realise that the LNP have been in government for 12 months now …? Do you actually know what responsibility is …?
Australian Sport = 99% Falsely Accused
Don’t be such a childish prick … you sound like you bet on and fix the games … fans are leaving football (of all codes) because its just become a way for Dickheads™ to make (or lose) money …
Some of us who used to watch regularly can’t believe some of the strange decisions made by THREE referees …
Who pays the refs???????????
The support by the heads of sporting bodies were simply at the press conference to give support to ASADA the anti-doping authority for ALL sport in Australia …
Political my arse … just more fiddling for The Robber Barons by a bought – dopey – LNP government …
””””””””””””””strange that nothing was said from the alleged victim until Shorten got to be leader of the ALP.””””””””
well, you know how it is,
she was young and naive, shortmen was young and naive,
almost everybody there was young and naive, at the young and naive meet-up
””’embarrassing exchange with Scott Morison this afternoon.””’
from the clip l saw, it looked like an embarrassment for both the men too,
petty arguing over the `degree` of the gulag
‘petty arguing over the `degree` of the gulag’
Well its not a fkn prison and has no armed guards. She looked a right dill.
99% Wake the fuck up Wally… 🙄
I can see why Abbott politicised it… he identifies with the whole fake Hero idiom
He dons the Lycra and thinks he’s Lance Armstrong….
He knows what its like to be tested and found to be an utter shambolic fake.
Squeal prattles on about immorality ( the deft sign of an utter fuckwit) where is Abbott on this display of unconscionable immoral character? in the wilderness scoring points by calling the people trying to tackle it opportunists while being immorally opportunistic… Fucking ironic don’t you think?
Sure make your Sports betting seem a little unpredictable….
Guilty as Fuck!!!!
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/asada-tables-offer-to-afl-for-essendon-players-to-accept-sixmonth-bans-20140821-106qv2.html#poll
Are you defending drug cheats Wally? I think sporting drug cheats are about as low as that
bumchumRoommate Catlick kiddy fiddler Tony wrote a reference for from the Gong….“……….fans are leaving football (of all codes) “”
Good Dog you talk/make up such fucking crap.
Soccer is booming in Crowds esp in Sydney and the NRL are getting huge ratings. Crowds are down because the long established traditional teams are not doing that well.
And where are the Cricket and Rugby and Soccer drug cheats we were promised. The massive match fixing (1 case in Victoria under 11s or something) and the organised crime links.
Fuck you talk some shit TB
I reckon TomR is the lovechild you had with Catching Up
How many in an AFL squad Ricky (30 ? for the season) …………………….then multiply it by 18 teams, then do the same for 16 NRL teams x 28 in a squad, then Super 14 x say 28, the 8 A League teams x say 24, the Australian Cricket contracted players 30?.
I get around 1,600 players.
Don’t even fucking try and tell me that 1 squad of AFL plus 1 of NRL is endemic.
Its FUCKING less than 4 % of all players. Not only that but Cronulla went fucked in that season anyway
The whole thing was a beat up by the ALP.
“Do you actually realise that the LNP have been in government for 12 months now …? Do you actually know what responsibility is …?”
Yes and they are doing something about it. Why the inquisition now that the boats have stopped and the detention centers are slowly being emptied?
These inquisitors are obviously Labor voters with evil hearts. They would still be silent if Labor was in power. There would be no inquisition.
On the sports doping topic if ASADA has lots of evidence why the offer of a reduced sentence if they confess? Sounds like they do not have a lot of evidence.
And I haven’t yet included Netball or Tennis………………………………So 99% falsely accused is about right.
Fuck you talk some shit TB
LOL!
I reckon TomR is the lovechild you had with Catching Up
Hypocrite … much!
And where are the Cricket and Rugby and Soccer drug cheats we were promised
“Promised” … maybe they’re coming … maybe there isn’t any … who stuck their silver spoon up your arse to make you squeal so much …
You don’t seem to think doping sportspeople is such a big deal … I DO!
I’m trying to figure out why your so “disappointed” … did they pick on one of “your” teams?
The whole thing was a beat up by the ALP.
To what fkn end?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
… why the offer of a reduced sentence if they confess?
A simple answer … $$$$$$$$ … clubs and players won’t survive …
BTW, kneel, I agree its pissweak …
”””Well its not a fkn prison”””’
only to an imbecile such as ya`self,
normal folk consider being taken(hijacked?) `against-will`/`extreme-coercion` and `freedom-removed/restricted` as `gulag/prison/concentration-camp`
.
”””and has no armed guards.””’
l didn`t say that, l don`t know, neither do you
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”””She looked a right dill.””” #so did the men
# petty arguing over the `degree` of the gulag
I’m not the only one I see … no defence from the usual suspects here either … c’mon, Wal!
http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/pells-comment-outrages-support-groups/story-e6frfku9-1227032902989
I reckon TomR is the lovechild you had with Catching Up
Close, well, I was a lovely child 🙂
I note a whole heap of thugby players have copped it sweet.
The Essendon players might be wondering what the fuck their club has got them all into.
Well its not a fkn prison
Ahh, I remember those camps we went on at tropical islands with armed guards and razor wire fences
Good times 😉
does dog-clubs and trucking companies need to be defended.?
Ok Wally I will give you that…include Golf…
The NRL is going gangbusters as is Soccer..
Hey Squeal fucktard…you obviously dont follow sport and are ignorant to the ramifications…
If they are innocent why are they taking a plea dickhead….
Getting sick of this it was worse under labor…Australia runs Gulags that is bypartisan shitfully a national disgrace… whoever is in power end of story
‘Ahh, I remember those camps we went on at tropical islands with armed guards and razor wire fences’
No razor wire fences or armed guards because its only a small island. I think there was some rioting there a couple of years ago, causing around $5 million in damages, but all those involved were rewarded with a trip to the big island and residency.
‘I’m not holding any ongoing grudge but he’s not the let’s have a couple of beers kind of guy anyway.’
‘In his book ‘The Good Fight’, Mr Swan says Kevin Rudd’s ‘prime ministership was not built to last’.
‘Its shelf life, being built on celebrity, as it was, was likely quite short unless he changed.
Kevin’s treatment of people was extraordinarily vindictive and juvenile. And it was frequently on display.’
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2731456/Black-Swan-Former-Treasurer-says-biggest-regret-turbulent-times-government-not-finishing-Kevin-Rudd-2010.html#ixzz3B7DPn6Kr
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”””””””Same-Sex Marriage Won’t Begin in Virginia Thursday
The Supreme Court is reviewing whether to take up the case
to overturn the state’s 2006 ban.
http://www.washingtonian.com/blogs/capitalcomment/local-news/same-sex-marriage-could-begin-in-virginia-thursday.php
””””””””””””””””’
Virginia teabags don`t seem to like the idea of teh-gays getting married so are running interference on the topic. #Teabag-Panic
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# Earlier
””””””””’A federal appeals court in Richmond on Monday upheld an lower court’s earlier decision ruling that Virginia’s ban on same-sex marriage is unconstitutional, notching another win for marriage-equality advocates and further pushing the issue back toward the Supreme Court.
http://www.washingtonian.com/blogs/capitalcomment/local-news/federal-appeals-court-says-virginias-same-sex-marriage-ban-is-unconstitutional.php
”””””””””””””””””””’
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(For Certain; teabags being teabags, can always be relied on to make the exact same arse-hat out of themselves; fighting and losing the exact same battle in each and every jurisdiction they possibly can.)
I remember the first time I met Bob Hawke when Whitlam was elected. My father introduced me to him and said “Son ..that man will be PM one day” I asked him why many years later around 84 and dad said because he knows how to make people believe in what’s right for the country, but more importantly he delivers.
Hawke and Keating were both great leaders but more importantly they had vision which is proven by legacy.
Howard was a disappointment because he lost his way and let his ideology and polling dictate policy. Morrison is Howard on steroids. When Howard started bringing race into a division in the political meme…Australia changed for the worse. As much as I disagreed with Howard, I would personally address him as Prime Minister, Tony Abbott I would address as dickhead.
I picked Rudd would be PM around the time of Latham and people thought I was mad. He is a man of populous that loves celebrity. Rudd had vision but his execution led to his execution. If you play rockstar your next album better be a cracker… He was all a bit Australian Idol for mine. The one thing Rudd would always have over Abbott is he was broke and you never forget that. It informs your decisions with empathy something sadly lacking in Abbott and most of his Ministry..
I spoke candidly to two of his ministers and it was all too much too quick. The big problem with this government is ideology over governance and a total lack of policy vision. Its all about selling shit and cutting costs with little or no detail.
A must for a PM is pragmatism and being a good negotiator.. Rudd had Gillard to do the hard yards there, Howard was pragmatic to a point.. Abbott is just a fucking tool bully boy who can’t get over his ego, one term Tony is a dud.
Nobody in this current government are good negotiators, they are dictatorial and they will be punished mercilessly for it.
You are wrong about Abbott and Morrison, its a different world to that of Hawke and Keating, a simpler age before the bipartisan agreement on refugees was broken down.
Howard and the Tampa gave Rudd and Gillard the opportunity to do it their way, but Abbott gave the thumbs down on that strategy. None of this would have happened if wannabe guest workers all around the world had stayed put.
Abbott is pragmatic and should be comfortably reelected in a couple of years. When that happens you will say the people are sheep and Murdoch brainwashed them, but in fact its because he is doing the people’s bidding.
Once the infrastructure begins there will be no stopping the Coalition winning the popularity stakes.
“Hawke and Keating were both great leaders but more importantly they had vision which is proven by legacy.”
Why were they so great? Did the Hawke/keating govt produce any good economic numbers? No.
Keating lost control of the budget in his last few years as PM and govt debt went from 6% of GDP to 18%. They deregulated the banking industry leading to the collapse of several banks. Victoria almost went bankrupt. Keating was elected PM in1993 when unemployment was at 11%. Home loan interest rates were 18%. And Superannuation is not stopping people going on the pension.
Ricky your problem is you can look at a horses arse and say it is beautiful. I think it is ugly.
Kevin’s treatment of people was extraordinarily vindictive and juvenile. And it was frequently on display.’
Sounds very much like the present incumbent then …
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And Superannuation is not stopping people going on the pension.
I won’t bother answering the rest of the nonsense … but the sentence above is important …
Compulsory super was introduced by Keating in 1992 … that’s just 22 years ago … most people work for about 45 years … it was initially 3%, it needs to be 15% to do what you expect (ie stop people needing the pension) and Keating’s plan was 12% in increments … over the years those increments have been stalled over and over again by the LNP – including this government …
Along comes the GFC and many people lose a major part of their capital to generate income to live off … the markets have recovered well over the last couple of years BUT those retirees who lost a major portion of their capital couldn’t … there is a major difference between being in the accumulative phase of super and the drawdown phase … with no speedy recovery of the markets retirees had to drawdown on their capital thus exacerbating the lack of earning power and therefore reducing their income from super … an ever decreasing spiral … the age pension is a life-line for people who have worked all their lives and through no fault of their own … simply lost a lot of working capital …
Why do some Australians simply ignore the massive effect of the GFC?
FYI, I have never had compulsory super … my wife and I went into business for ourselves in 1992 … we retired in 2005 … on our own personally accrued super …
I paid tax from 1963 to 1992 that included an age pension component … almost 30 years …
… even you know that personal income tax was higher than during the Howard/Costello, Rudd/Gillard/Rudd and now Abbott governments … and THAT is the main reason that the Federal Government has no income … no-one pays enough fkn personal income tax!
I suggest you read ALL of this …
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superannuation_in_Australia
Yeah apart from modernising the the economy , the tax system, engaging with Asia, Marbo, Sex discrimination and introducing superannuation and a wage accord linked to productivity they did nothing 🙄
The difference between you and me is I ride the horse and you have your head up its ass. You cannot defend Abbott with any semblance of decency so you try and invent this parallel universe constructed from a version of the past that is completely wrong.
I will ask you straight up…. Sqweal .. Strait unqualified answer tell me why concisely
Is Abbott a good leader…? Is he a good PM?
What are his enduring intellectual and affable attributes? What is his parliamentary legacy? What legislation has he championed and written that has benefited Australia?
Please enlighten me….
Egg there you go derailing again get your head out of the horses ass Abbot started unpopular and is going backwards. Labor builds infrastructure, fiberals sell it…
Building a road into the city is not only expensive its fucking unnecessary and dumb…
“Compulsory super was introduced by Keating in 1992 … that’s just 22 years ago ”
TB you miss my point. Superannuation is not working because it fails to take into account human nature.
Lots of people are getting lump sum payments they have never seen. Even after only 22 years some people are getting $250,000. What they then do is sell up, buy a nice retirement home on some nice beach in a house they would not normally be able to afford, go around the world on a holiday, use up their lump sum and then go on the pension.
It should be paid as an annuity. If its not people will just splurge their lump sum payments and go on the pension.Why not??
So Squeal is not going to answer the question?
Abbott has not been in long enough to make a decision. But he has stopped the boats. he is emptying the detention centers the ALP created.
His main problem is that he cannot get his budget through the Senate because he does not have the numbers. And ALP supporters made up there mind years ago. No matter who leads the Coalition they will always say the same thing.
And Superannuation is not working because it fails to account for human nature.
‘Building a road into the city is not only expensive its fucking unnecessary and dumb…’
I tend to agree, VFT into the cities is a far better option.
So Squeal is not going to answer the question typical.. you really are pathetic 🙄
No it seem their leaders are doing for the ALP…
The Esteemed PM Fraser gets it
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-23/malcolm-fraser-calls-abbotts-team-australia-divisive/5691550
Kevin’s treatment of people was extraordinarily vindictive and juvenile. And it was frequently on display.’
I’m not sure this is entirely true, I was at one of those political dinners (while he was PM) and sat next to one of his advisors. She was pregnant and about to go on maternity leave, but was most complimentary about how considerate Rudd had been throughout.
She said the performance/delivery expectations were high, and the hours could be a grind, but this was what was expected when working for a Prime Minister.
I sometimes wonder whether Rudd’s poor reputation with people was caused by the of gossip of public servants who really aren’t used to turning up for work for more than 35 hours, and working about 15 of them
Even after only 22 years some people are getting $250,000.
Of course, that is $250,000 less that the taxpayer must pay, but we’ll ignore that won’t we. 😉
It’s true that currently the rate of super savings is not high enough, but, you can blame the libs for that, they have backtracked on every rise when they could. They are also the ones responsible for making super itself so ineffective for offsetting pensions by the ridiculous allowances made.
Super is the best way of future proofing aged pensions, but the libs solution is to skew super as a money making venture for their mates, and just cut pensions from those who need it the most.
“Of course, that is $250,000 less that the taxpayer must pay, but we’ll ignore that won’t we”
No. They are spending it on round the world trips and then going on the pension.
It should be paid as an annuity.
but was most complimentary about how considerate Rudd had been throughout.
Yes, but did he share a fridge?
No. They are spending it on round the world trips and then going on the pension.
We went through this before at the Cafe nil, and I showed you the link where payouts are taken into account for determining pensions.
public servants who really aren’t used to turning up for work for more than 35 hours, and working about 15 of them
Nice try yomm 😉
Department of Finance staff worked an extra 1200 days to put together Joe Hockey’s controversial budget and critics said it proved the bureaucracy had reached capacity and should lead to the scrapping of parts of the government’s negotiating position with 160,000 public servants.
Staff in Finance’s budget group worked almost 10,000 hours on top of usual shifts across five months, many of them on Saturdays and Sundays, to crunch numbers for a budget the Treasurer is now battling to sell as he criss-crosses the country.
Overtime racked up by staff working on a budget that locked in job cuts for 16,500 of their colleagues in the federal bureaucracy smashed the myth that public servants were lazy, say unions and the opposition.
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/public-service/bureaucrats-forced-to-work-weekends-to-finalise-joe-hockeys-budget-20140814-103kgu.html?skin=dumb-phone
“We went through this before at the Cafe nil, and I showed you the link where payouts are taken into account for determining pensions”
Really? Perhaps you could remind me. My understanding is that you can splurge your payout and then go on the pension.
If so why not do it. Go through the $250,000 as fast as possible doing things you could normally not afford and then go on the pension.
You need to remind me again.
””’it needs to be 15% to do what you expect (ie stop people needing the pension)””’
#calculated under full-time-long-term employment
#nothing calculated under short-term junk-job status
#so-far the keating super plan has been unfulfilled, teabag have objected and opposed all stages of increase and undermined long-term employment to such an extent there will be an increase in `welfare/pension` needs post boomer. (Tho teabags would probably prefer to spend on courts and gulags as teh-usa has done.)
””’You need to remind me again.”””
it wouldn`t matter how many times you are reminded, your willful blindness will prevent you from seeing it
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”””””””’Go through the $250,000 as fast as possible doing things you could normally not afford and then go on the pension.””””””’
these are teabag downward-envy and fears of old,
many of us won`t have the `big` payout, or own a home in the future, just a very meager pension to replace meager wages
My understanding is that you can splurge your payout and then go on the pension.
It is possible, but only, as I said above, due to idiocy of the libs and their retail super mates.
It is probably why they hate the industry funds, because, to my knowledge, it cannot be done with them.
It is far better to close of the loopholes than abandon the scheme.
#so-far the keating super plan has been unfulfilled
It’s a crying shame 😦
Abbott has not been in long enough to make a decision.
Chortle … choke!!!!!!!!!
And Superannuation is not working because it fails to account for human nature.
I see TR has answered this silliness … and BTW where does the $250,000 come from …
http://www.news.com.au/finance/superannuation/baby-boomers-to-work-into-80s/story-e6frfmdi-1226769073673
Click to access household-savings-retirement.pdf
You only need to read the Exec Summary …
Baby Boomers are already doing it tough … if the Abbott government don’t know this then they are incompetent … if they do then they are a bunch of cruel pricks … in deference to the LNP I prefer the former … incompetents are running MY country … we need a double dissolution OR a change in LNP leadership …
… Australian governments are supposed to govern for ALL of us … this government is controlled by the elite! The Elysium Experiment!
Repeal Negative Gearing!
Repeal Family Trusts!
Cap Senior Executive pay in both business and unions!
Reduce Parliamentarian INCOME by 10%!
Repeal the Gold Card System for retired Ministers!
And then tell us we have a “Budget Crisis” …
My understanding is that you can splurge your payout and then go on the pension.
You know nothin’*, Kneel of Sydley … and you are not as “old” as you have indicated … the more you comment the more I am convinced that you really are a schoolboy with no life/work experience at all … just like egg and its chameleon he/she shit …
As for your “understanding” you don’t! Who could possibly live on $17,000** a year without reverting to cat food to survive … how much income do you survive on?
**$33,000 for a couple!
*I’ve just finished Series 4 of GOT … about to buy the BD of the series, Wally. 🙂
And this is the government with all the answers … credit where its due … this is a news.com.au story … seems they are getting a bit toey about the “government” they “elected” too …
http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/pm-says-budget-must-be-passed/story-e6frfku9-1227034097079
#so-far the keating super plan has been unfulfilled
I absolutely agree … and never will!
The concept was flawed from the start … it should have been a guaranteed return fund operated by government …
Keating actually threw retirees to the wolves of finance – THE ROBBER BARONS!
If super investment is long term then it should be just that … as it stands its a short term profit vehicle for … fund managers … not retirees … the system is not only flawed it is CORRUPT! (Too big to fail?)
And do you really think this government (any government) is going to attempt to “fix” it?
Not a chance … I pity the poor and ignorant … I really do … and personally I can do nothing to stop the wolves … and that is so fkn frustrating!
From your last link TB
Budget back in emergency, Cormann says
I’m getting fucken dizzy. Are we? aren’t we?
Wish they’d make up their bloody minds.
Although, I just listened to a bit of Something Wonky’s latest, and they were talking about this “predicament”. If the “budget emergency” is declared as over too soon, it will look like it didn’t happen, but if it takes to long to be declared as over, then the libs will take responsibility for hte “budget mess”
Basically, it is a bullshit argument that has now tied the libs themselves in knots. It all looks so easy when you are just saying “no” from opposition.
Team Australia™ is looking pretty clueless at the moment.
“It is probably why they hate the industry funds, because, to my knowledge, it cannot be done with them.”
Lots of ifs buts and maybes there. Why not post the link you said you posted before but wont?
Fact is Superannuation will not work unless it is paid as an annuity. Maybe it should be a combined Super annuity and a small pension.
But my beliefs are that most Labor policies do not work. And I am starting to worry about Superannuation. Cafe lunatic asylum has folded but over at AIMN some people have said we should liquidate the Future Fund to pay off our debt. Next it will be our Superannuation savings.
I have no hope in socialist govts.
I’m getting fucken dizzy. Are we? aren’t we?
As I said, TR, incompetent or just cruel .. kneel will know …
Fact is Superannuation will not work unless it is paid as an annuity.
Then fix the loophole the libs put in, so it can work as planned.
It is only there so those who can afford it can use it to rort the system.
“Then fix the loophole the libs put in”
What loophole? My understanding is that it has been that way from the beginning.
And that is why most ALP policies do not work. They fail to take into account human nature.
No parent has to tell a child how to lie. It just comes naturally. Parents have to teach their children to tell the truth.
Any govt policy which relies on people to do the right thing will fail. Very few people if they get a lump sum will use it carefully. They will spend the lot and go on the pension.
”””fix the loophole”””so it can work”””#properly
while l agree somewhat, nothing will be fixed until the `teabag-verses-teabag-lite-duopoly` is `fixed`, we desperately need Govts that will Govern, not dismantle and abdicate, state and federal,
until one of the duopoly or, a 3rd player (with enough clout to fight the duopoly and teabag-media and, able to convince public) do this, we are all up shit-creek
So Squeal is not going to answer the question typical.. Again you really are pathetic 🙄
I’ll just take that as you, like everyone else in Australia; think that Abbott is a complete cunt
‘OR a change in LNP leadership …’
I nominate Dennis Jensen.
“It is only there so those who can afford it can use it to rort the system.”
Anyone who is still working and is concerned about providing for their retirement should be salary-sacrificing as much as they can afford into superannuation .
https://www.ato.gov.au/Individuals/Super/Other-contributions/Concessional-(before-tax)-contributions/
Yes Tinfoil`osy, ”’IF”’ they actually earn enough to ”’sacrifice”’
“Anyone who is still working and is concerned about providing for their retirement should be salary-sacrificing as much as they can afford into superannuation . ”
I used to salary sacrifice 7.5% of my income. After thinking about how most ALP policies fail i decided to stop salary sacrificing, lose the tax advantage and put my extra income into my home loan.
I have no great hope that Superannuation savings will be around when i retire. When the next socialist govt gets in, after raiding the Future Fund they will then go for Superannuation savings.
Neil, I’m mindful that a future (or current) government could change the rules, but am presuming they won’t do it retrospectively. (Once governments start applying laws retrospectively, we’re all buggered.)
All rhetorical nonsense and nasty vitriolic projection…. but Squeal is not going to answer the question typical.. He just cant …. its Pathetic 🙄
He just cat bring himself to, just pure conformation, like everyone else in Australia; he thinks that Abbott is a complete cunt
Yeah you would fucktard 🙄
‘Basically, it is a bullshit argument …’
They are just saying to the Senate that this is an emergency and if you don’t pass the budget in its entirety then let it be on your heads.
‘Yeah you would fucktard’
Just joking, alright I nominate Talcum Labor Lite.
BEIJING — ‘Websites of provincial discipline inspection agencies have been a resounding success, said the top discipline inspection agency on Friday.
‘All 31 provincial discipline inspection agencies on the Chinese mainland now have websites, according to the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection (CCDI) of the Communist Party of China.
‘All these sites receive online tip-offs about officials’ misbehaviour.’
White elephant found in Sydney.
‘THE desalination plant has sat idle for two years, costing taxpayers $390 million.’
Daily Terror
Chinese invasion meets resistance in Perth.
‘A racist rant which took place on an inner-city train on Friday afternoon has been captured on video by a shocked witness.
‘The attack took place in Perth this time, when an Aboriginal woman was seen yelling abusively at a woman of Asian descent.’
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2732621/Everybody-train-stunned-Watch-moment-woman-launches-racist-tirade-against-fellow-passenger.html#ixzz3BFi3ntG8
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Politics? I think not… guilty as fuck.
Is Tony Abbot going to retract his ironically hypocritical comments politicising ASADA’s investigation?
Abbott said the politicisation of the ACC report was a “silly, squalid, sordid” thing to do.
“It’s pathetic. Absolutely pathetic … It was just really appalling that people could stoop to this level,”
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/ban-stephen-dank-from-all-sport-asada-20140823-107pn4.html
Wow, it looks like I was wrong. It may have been the libs who closed of a loophole.
Unfortunately, it renders nils argument moot, and many article attacking super very ……….. out-dated(?) 😦
You should also keep in mind that if you have been contributing over a number of years, the law has changed what is considered as preserved contributions. This means that although you may have thought that contributions were not preserved, this may not be the case. After 1 July 1999, the law changed so that all contributions are considered to be preserved.
http://www.theage.com.au/money/tools-and-guides/superannuation-guide–withdrawing-your-superannuation-20100531-wp51.html
So you cannot draw down on any super contributions from after 1999 without it being considered in your pension age. I’ll give the libs that one 😉
Anyone who is still working and is concerned about providing for their retirement should be salary-sacrificing as much as they can afford into superannuation .
Tell me about Tony. How idealic would that be. Of course, that assumes that people have spare money an all. Unfortunately, many of us live in the real world, and the large majority of people live week to week. Spare money is not a term used very often.
Once governments start applying laws retrospectively, we’re all buggered
Tell me about it. I’m hoping the hex debts don’t start getting charged at the new interest rates. I’lll be buggered 😦
lols, tabot tells us we don’t want another election (guess he has run away from his previous statements(?).
The internet nasties disagree.
Poll: Would you like to see a double dissolution election?
Yes 96%
No 4%
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/voters-dont-want-another-election-tony-abbott-hoses-down-claims-of-a-poor-budget-sales-job-20140822-1073fu.html
Is anyone planning to watch the new Dr Who tonight?
Tom the “Mandate ” Meme has worn out with all the surprises…
When a vicious, vindictive rusted on troll liar cannot even bring himself (or herself?) to squeal the virtues of this dud PM in all conscious… pretty much says it all 🙄
Is anyone planning to watch the new Dr Who tonight?
I watched it last week 🙂
Is Tony Abbot going to retract his ironically hypocritical comments politicising ASADA’s investigation?
Retractions need to get in line. Currently, the Queue is buffering.
(for wally way back up)
“”Everyone (but tabot) has agreed that he did in fact punch the wall.””
Really ?…………………..who saw it ?
Two people at last count
That woe-begotten spray contained a crucial error. There were two credible eye witnesses, one of whom had made a sworn statement about what happened in 1977.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/10/andrew-bolt-the-latest-to-apologise-for-doubting-tony-abbotts-wall-punch
Those Catlics are abusive truckers
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/22/truckers-outraged-by-cardinal-george-pells-sex-abuse-comparison?CMP=soc_567
“Unfortunately, it renders nils argument moot, and many article attacking super very ……….. out-dated(?”
Your link said this
“How is it paid?
If you withdraw money from your superannuation you can choose to receive this by lump sum or in the form of regular payments, like a pension.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/money/tools-and-guides/superannuation-guide–withdrawing-your-superannuation-20100531-wp51.html#ixzz3BGId0jfp
My accountant friend tells me lots of people are choosing to receive their Super payment as a lump sum when they retire. They then sell up, buy an expensive home, go on an overseas trip, use up the lump sum and then go on the pension. Apparently the value of your home does not effect your pension payment too much.
Perhaps it should be made law that you must take your Super payment as a pension.
My accountant friend tells me lots of people are choosing to receive their Super payment as a lump sum when they retire
Ask your “accountant friend ” about how lump sums are worked out when you reach retirement age.
The internet nasties disagree.
Poll: Would you like to see a double dissolution election?
Yes 96%
No 4%
Would that be collected as metadata or just the website it was conducted on … ?
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Is anyone planning to watch the new Dr Who tonight? Nah … FYI, its showing at our local Event cinema … big screen Dr Who!
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My accountant friend tells me lots of people are choosing to receive their Super payment as a lump sum when they retire. They then sell up, buy an expensive home, go on an overseas trip, use up the lump sum and then go on the pension.
You accountant friend talks through her/his arse …
Your “blanket” approach of annuity doesn’t work for everyone … (I understand your reasoning BTW) … we analysed that approach for ourselves …
I’m a firm believer in having no debt at all when you retire and an advocate for owning your home before any investments … unfortunately many retirees still have a mortgage (friends of ours still have a mortgage – he’s 85 she’s 72) but they are asset rich and income poor so still work – not eligible for the pension because they have some commercial property they cannot sell and too much in shares … so as soon as they can they will pay off all their debt and that requires a lump sum …
As an aside we live off our super and “skim” the earnings usually twice a year … that has worked well for us over the last 8/9 years … an annuity would constantly reduce the capital and actually cost us money … one cap does not fit all, I’m afraid …
‘… pretty much says it all’
My comprehension is poor, could you say it again in another way?
That woe-begotten spray contained a crucial error.
And after all the apologies and court case listed to the lady in question and Bolt’s apology quoted … people still attempted to defend that it didn’t occur because Team Australia’s Leader had said so …
And from the comments in The Guardian link ….
Why should Abbott admit to something that he is certain did not happen?
Much amusement this above from none other than our favourite dingbat ….
Ian Hall … still wandering aimlessly and commenting stupidly, I see … LOL!
More rhetorical nonsense and nasty envious vitriolic projection from the super troll….Still Squeal avoids answering the question .He just can’t bring himself to admit that like everyone else in Australia; he thinks that Abbott is a complete cunty fop flop.
Wonder if Andrews has kicked that bludging fruitloop off the DSP yet? Not normally vindictive but I hope so…
(Something random and/or civilising: China executes eight involved in Xinjiang ‘terror attacks’.)
From, M’s, link …
Mmmmm … I do hope the Abbott government is taking note(s) …
Wonder if Andrews has kicked that bludging fruitloop off the DSP yet?
That could apply to any one of the Abbott Ministers (starting at the top of course) …
I mean, how ironic, here they all are, constantly sucking on the public teat and blaming others ’cause they have to give a drop or two to the very people who bought the pig, reared it and fed it …
Tim Flannery said it would not rain again like it used to so State Labor govts listened and built desalinisation plants.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/613m-for-desalination-plant-no-water-ordered-20140327-35k7c.html
“Victorians will pay $613 million for the desalination plant this year, despite not a drop of water ever being ordered from the plant.
Water Minister Peter Walsh said a recent refinancing of the desaliniation plant would save Victorian families $187 million on their water bills.
He announced on Thursday that for the third consecutive year, he would not order any water from the Wonthaggi plant, which was built under the former Brumby Labor government.”
For the money spent you most probably could have given every Victorian home a rainwater tank. Problem solved. But Flannery said it would not rain again.
(For Certain; l can reassure TB his meta-data and content-data is safely siphoned-off for nsa and/or homeland in southern california.) #teabag.panic
Tim Flannery said it would not rain again like it used to so State Labor govts listened and built desalinisation plants.
Queensland is 75% drought declared …
For the money spent you most probably could have given every Victorian home a rainwater tank. Problem solved.
Only if it rained …
Most water is used by industry BTW …
Wait till the next drought …
And just a reminder …
http://www.dfat.gov.au/facts/env_glance.html
rainwater tanks, like mr-rabbits `dams`(as promoted endlessly by dumpty) depend on a little thing called `rainfall`(another junk-science denial dot-point l suppose) while desal will work until the ocean dries-out #teabags
(Only if it rained …
Perhaps, not even, or especially even, then; if water-tanks, too, are flooded under and/or standard water-treatment plants, possibly also underwater, would be drawing from over-turbid, under-settled, possibly over-flowing catchments and dams; but, that’d never happen in the land of droughts and flooding rains and purely-politically-motivated, short-term risk-assessments of unknown and unknowable and unprecedented 1:xxxx year events.)
teabag gets a new rainwater tank, not relying on dumpty`s dams
‘dams`(as promoted endlessly by dumpty)’
You might be confusing me with Andrew Bolt.
“Wait till the next drought …”
The desal plants were built for the major cities which are on the coast and it eventually rains on the coast. Flannery scared everybody into thinking it would never rain again. This from the link i gave
“Total contract costs, without ordering water, still stand at $18.3 billion over 27 years but this is a $1.2 billion improvement on the deal Labor signed – a deal they tried to hide from Melbourne households”
$18.3B??? You could give everybody in Australia rainwater tanks for $18.3B. You could double or triple the storage capacity of areas in drought prone places. Rainwater tanks in the major cities (Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane) would mean no extra dams are needed.
Tim Flannery has cost the country billions with his false prophecies.
Operation Sovereign Borders at work… Go Scott you fucking hero..
Suppose all you fibralators are cool with this..
More rhetorical nonsense and nasty vitriolic projection from the super troll….Gutless Squeal avoids answering the question again… .He just cant bring himself to find one endearing feature of Abbott, the hands down, worst dysfunctional, lying, divisive PM in Australian history…
http://crooksandliars.com/2014/08/hartmann-how-long-texas-changes-open-carry
…Progressive radio host Thom Hartmann wonders how long it will take for Texas to change their open carry laws now that groups like the Huey P. Newton Gun Club are taking to the streets to protest.
As he discussed in the segment above, they used to have open carry in California as well, and that changed back in the 60’s when a conservative Republican state assemblyman, Don Mulford proposed legislation to put a stop to the Black Panthers showing up armed to the hilt any time they heard that an African American was being stopped on their police scanners.
Now that this is going on in Dallas, Texas, Hartmann wonders how long it’s going to take before we see the same thing happen there. As he noted, most of these open carry advocates don’t mind idiots running around with loaded firearms in public as long as they’re the right color…
””””””””””most of these open carry advocates don’t mind idiots running around with loaded firearms in public as long as they’re the right color.”””””””””
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””””””””””What in the world are they going to do over at Faux “news” if more images like this one start showing up in the press? They’re going to have to choose between the open carry nuts and making people afraid of black people.””””””””””’
#ROFL that`s an excellent find armchair, thanks 🙂
‘dams`(as promoted endlessly by dumpty)’
””’You might be confusing me with Andrew Bolt.””’
#pigs-arse, l don`t read blot, and blot doesn`t post here
Sorry
wrong thread!
hey armchair, this one is good too,
(#guess what mr-rabbits teabags are trying to do)
”””””””’Austerity Has Made Europe’s Depression Longer Than In ’30s *
By Dave Johnson August 23, 2014 *
Europe’s governments are learning that spending cuts slowed economic growth and actually increased deficits. Meanwhile, America’s “Great Recession” also drags on thanks to cutbacks in government spending.
Europe’s economic depression has now lasted longer than the Great Depression of the 1930s. Meanwhile, America’s “Great Recession” also drags on thanks to cutbacks in government spending since the stimulus.
Europe’s leaders somehow were convinced that austerity – “deficit reduction” through cutbacks in government – would somehow lead them out of their economic doldrums. They believed that taking money out of the economy would help the economy. The result has been terrible. The Washington Post’s Wonkblog calls Europe’s austerity-lengthened depression “one of the biggest catastrophes in economic history.”
To top it off, Europe’s governments are learning that cutting back on spending not only worsens the economic picture, causing terrible unemployment, poverty and human misery, but the worsened economic picture means less revenue coming in, thereby increasing deficits instead of lowering deficits. In other words, austerity cutbacks to fight deficits have instead made deficits worse and hurt people.
http://crooksandliars.com/2014/08/austerity-has-made-europes-depression
”””””””””””””””””””
The privilege idiots on the government front bench
http://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/opinion/topic/2014/08/23/the-privilege-idiots-the-government-front-bench/1408716000#.U_oIYxGSyum
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/08/the-age-of-entitlement-how-wealth-breeds-narcissism
Neil is correct on the dam business, there was no due diligence.
‘Suppose all you fibralators are cool with this..’
Fuggin oath.
there was no due diligence.
Really?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Desalination_Plant#Decision_to_build
“Europe’s leaders somehow were convinced that austerity – “deficit reduction” through cutbacks in government – would somehow lead them out of their economic doldrums.”
Best to not get into economic doldrums to start with. So if austerity does not work i guess the author thinks more debt spending is the answer.
‘Really?’
Yeah.
Best to not get into economic doldrums to start with
Tell it to Wall Street.
Yeah.
Actually dopey, the link has further links to studies which constitute “due diligence”.
So ‘yeah’ doesn’t really amount to a refutation, simply further evidence of your ignorance.
The desalination plants were built on a faulty assumption.
The desalination plants were built on a faulty assumption.
What, that we have extended droughts ❓ 😯
RIP
Richard Attenborough … one of the great actor/directors of our time!
RP, classic Morrison blood on the hands …
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TR, these two “discussions” go around and around – how the solar subsidy is paid for by the poor and the desal plants were a waste of money …no actual evidence to the contrary after its been provided and I’m not doing it again … waste of effort … negative is negative … don’t make a positive at all …
I do remember thinking what a great idea Medjya Tart Beattie had tho’ … a fleet of desal plants that could be sailed to anywhere that needed fresh water …
And there was plenty of debate and ROI carried out for both projects … 90,000 solar systems have had an impact on peak and general demand in Queensland … that saves costs at source … and while the weather is fine now (although 75% of Queensland is drought declared) we still live on the driest inhabited continent in the world … a simple risk assessment would tell you that the chance of another serious drought soon is inevitable …
a simple risk assessment would tell you that the chance of another serious drought soon is inevitable …
But that’s for them then to worry about I guess 😦
‘What, that we have extended droughts’
On the surface it appears to be a logical fallacy.
JUST IN CASE SQUEAL FORGOT THE QUESTION
Deft silence from our local fiberal troll.. I see
NOSTOS does lots of rhetorical postulating about the past but not much critique or sticking up for Abbott…. He is obviously incapable of doing so….Egg…well she’s just rockin the steely dan over that picture of the baby tagged like livestock
On the surface it appears to be a logical fallacy.
Feel free to explain your reasoning.
Team Australia..fuck No
No thanks.
When I was very young and part of a artists/writers crowd in Annandale I helped Frank get elected as an Independent.
He would come around with the committee, discuss the latest intrigues and ok the art work. I began putting up posters, which the Labor team pulled down and so I replaced them with Frank’s face.
The Committee took notice of my zealotry and put me forward as someone with more potential. We all met up at Frank’s place after breakfast, a cramped terrace in Chippendale and we talked, but I turned his offer down.
Imagine what might have been?
Chief knob polisher at a looney convention?
Terrific artwork.
https://twitter.com/sortius/status/503468665145024512
“RP, classic Morrison blood on the hands …”
The only people with blood on their hands is Rudd/Gillard and the people who voted for them. Ending the Pacific Solution in a burst of moral superiority by the ALP lead to 1200 drownings that we know of and most probably 3 or 4 times that and locking out refugees from UNHCR camps.
Thanks goodness for Morrison
Answer the Question Squeal Troll… its pretty simple
Is Abbott a good leader…?
Is he a good PM?
What are his enduring intellectual and affable attributes?
What is his parliamentary legacy?
What legislation has he championed and written that has benefited Australia?
Yep thank goodness for Morrison. The current system while not perfect is much better than the Rudd/Gillard system. Fact is there is large scale people movement from poorer countries into wealthy countries. The USA is getting 30,000 economic immigrants/month from Mexico and Central America.
I feel sorry for the thousands of refugees from UNHCR camps we would have taken instead of the economic immigrants under Gillard. Raza Berati risked and lost his life because he could not get a job in his chosen profession in Iraq.
By the way not sure what the point of the picture at 11.49PM. There is no date on the picture. It could have come from the Rudd/Gillard era.
So you wont Answer the Question Squeal Troll?
Is Abbott a good leader…?
Is he a good PM?
What are his enduring intellectual and affable attributes?
What is his parliamentary legacy?
What legislation has he championed and written that has benefited Australia?
Take a good look at that little girl thats your hero’s Scott’s handywork.
Got a date for the photo?? My understanding is the boats have stopped.
It was the ALP/Greens that locked up increasing numbers and record numbers of children. Morrison is releasing them. Children in detention are down by 35% under Morrison.
ALP/Greens locked up record numbers of people because that is what leftists/socialists do. You find out what people believe by what they do not by what they say and the ALP locked up record numbers of people.
So you wont Answer the Question Squeal Troll will you?
You like all the people who voted for Abbott are embarrassed by him reflected in a -19 approval rating
Is Abbott a good leader…?
Is he a good PM?
What are his enduring intellectual and affable attributes?
What is his parliamentary legacy?
What legislation has he championed and written that has benefited Australia?
A National Disgrace
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6udbl1kmg41hwva/Children%20in%20Detenton.mov
“Let me ask once again, @splinta could you please provide source re your assertion “some of the guards are in fact armed”? ”
I see. So that picture is supposed to prove Scott Morrison wrong re: carrying guns.
Morrison said the detention center guards at Christmas Island do not carry guns. The people in the picture are not detention center guards and it looks like they are on a boat since i can see water and a life jacket and therefore not at Christmas Island. They are customs officials (written on back of shirt) and I guess like police are allowed to carry guns.
Did I say they are detention centre guards?
Once again you twist everything around your narrow rusted on view of the world using leftist..alp supporter and such.. As I have explained to you many times because I think you are a thick simplistic low intellect parrot.. I am a centrist…
So you are fine with that little girl tagged like an animal by armed personnel in jackboots? This is the Australia you want is it? You are big on calling people immoral…well as a proud Australian I consider that abhorrent and immoral..
So you wont Answer the Question Squeal Troll will you?
You like all the people who voted for Abbott are embarrassed by him reflected in a -19 approval rating
Is Abbott a good leader…?
Is he a good PM?
What are his enduring intellectual and affable attributes?
What is his parliamentary legacy?
What legislation has he championed and written that has benefited Australia?
Here is another question you wont answer?
Do you agree with what is morally happening in that that photo?
I think Scotty is lying to you Squeal…
Ya think?
(Is Neil noisily complaining about the underwhelming response (a year or more for O/S claim processing, paltry number of available visas, must have co-sponsors already in the Australian community, no proper queue created so trans-border refugees are resorting to people-smugglers) of the Federal Government to fleeing Yazidi orphan-waifs, again? Get with Team Australia, Neil! And get behind an instantly-available extra $640 million of your tax-money going towards urgent humanitarian assistance and domestic espionage!)
Like when were those photos taken ?
Perhaps during the Christmas Island riots under the ALP ????????????????
And since when do the Police or Customs guard detention centres…………………….?
LIKE NEVER
Gillian Trigg was shown up as a complete fuckwit last week plus she has given commentary on the enquiry before it was even completed.
She’s already decided on the Inquiry’s Report contents. In fact the grubby piece of shit that she is might as well just start handing out the Conclusions now so the Taxpayer no longer needs to pay for her pathetic fucking ego in having a few cameras pointed in her direction.
(Has ‘she’? When legal academics speak up for asylum seekers and refugees, their public advocacy is underpinned by powerful personal experience.)
From Meta’s Link
“………….As the head of the Australian Human Rights Commission, this year she initiated, and is leading, the National Inquiry into Children in Immigration Detention 2014.
“It will be a challenge to shift public opinion, but I’m up for it,” Triggs says. “With my presidential power, I deliberately decided to hold an inquiry into the plight of the children in detention. It will give us a better chance to shift public opinion.”……………………””
So there we have it……………………………..we already know what the final Report is going to say
(Similar or different things to or from a 2004 Inquiry and Report, to which Neil keeps referring with some approval; with some inquiry-led, evidence-based updates to account for similiarities to and differences from the 2004 Report vis-a-vis a government-of-the-day’s prevailing policies and performances, and their incidents and incidences, as of 2014? Very likely.)
“Did I say they are detention centre guards?”
Morrison specifically said Christmas Island detention centre guards do not have weapons. Then out come all the lefties showing Customs officials and Federal Police with weapons.
The question that should be asked is why is Triggs holding the inquiry now? She was appointed in mid-2012, watched the ALP lock up record numbers of children from 2007 till her appointment then awakes from her slumber after Abbott wins govt to hold an inquiry.
What about the 2012 report? Oh, wait there wan’t one! That’s politics for you. Trigg clearly doesn’t care about kids, just the politicking. Like the morons screeching so loudly now yet not so much when hundreds of kids were drowning due to the policies they supported and well knew the consequences of.
(Couldn’t it be asked why a very experienced Front Bench of very safe hands, a Front Bench comprised almost entirely of Ministers with Parliamentary and Ministerial experience extending back to before 2013, and 2010, and 2007, and 2004, might seem to have almost forgotten an important 2004 Report, such that it might appear to be an unwanted or unwelcome surprise when a 10-year review arises, when formulating and applying child-friendly and human-rights-recognisant policies in 2014, instead or additionally?)
They don’t need weapons they killed that bloke by kicking the shit out of him…
Oh..I’m a lefty? why because I point out the inconvenience of this immorality?
See thats why i’m in Centrist and you’re a wingnut…you can’t think for yourself and when you conscious is tripped..you start with the vindictive bullshit
My advice to you Squeal is check your own morality befor you start throwing around the word immoral and casting aspersions on others claiming “the high moral ground” because if you think that this is acceptable by any stretch or the imagination..you are brainwashed and deluded by ideology…
Take a good hard look at yourself Squeal…
Answer my questions Squeal.. you can’t can you?
Do you have kids?
Thanks Kimball, that gqaust url will feed the spam-trap nicely, do you have the same ip-address as kneel and dumpty.