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PUP Warns of Imminent Chinese Invasion!

August 19, 2014

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A day after Mr Palmer stoked controversy by describing the Chinese as “bastards” and “mongrels” who shoot their own people, Senator Lambie has released a statement saying she supports her leader’s comments about China’s military capacity.

“If anybody thinks that we should have a national security and defence policy, which ignores the threat of a Chinese Communist invasion – you’re delusional and got rocks in your head,’’ her statement said.

“The Communist Chinese military capacity and level of threat to the western world democracies is at an unprecedented and historical high.”

Her statement concluded by saying that Mr Palmer’s comments “are a timely warning and highlight the appalling national security and defence policy failures of both Labor and the Liberals/Nationals.

Both Labor and the Liberals/Nationals have failed to build an Australian military that is able to defend us – and stop our grandchildren from becoming slaves to an aggressive, anti-democratic, totalitarian foreign power.”

The statement comes as Mr Palmer attempts to play down his outburst on the ABC’s Q and A program.

The controversial politician launched an attack on Australia’s biggest trading partner, labeling the Chinese Government as “mongrels”.

During an appearance on the ABC’s Q and A program on Monday, the Palmer United Party leader also accused the foreign government of trying to take over Australia’s ports and destroying the wage system.

He told viewers that legal allegations against him were untrue and part of a campaign of “bluster”.

“We’ve had three judgements in the Federal Court, The Supreme Court of Western Australia and an arbitration against these Chinese mongrels,” he said.

“I am saying that because they are communists, because they shoot their own people, they haven’t got a justice system and they want to take over this country. And we’re not going to let them do it.”

STANDING UP AGAINST THE CHINESE BASTARDS

The controversial comments followed questions over allegations that the mining magnate siphoned off $12 million in funding from his Chinese business partner, Citicto, to support his federal election campaign.

Mr Palmer dodged the questions, before telling host Tony Jones to go to court if he wanted answers.

“The Chinese government wants to bring workers here and destroy our wage system,” he said.

“It won’t stop the fact that they want to take over our ports…”

“I don’t mind standing up against the Chinese bastards and stopping them doing it.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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293 Comments leave one →
  1. August 19, 2014 2:16 pm

    Sen Jacquie Lambie to ABC radio re threat of Chinese invasion, “Tony Abbott’s sleepy, sleepy & I say to the PM wakey, wakey.”

  2. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 19, 2014 2:22 pm

    “Tony Abbott’s sleepy, sleepy & I say to the PM wakey, wakey.”

    Why oh why isn’t she Foreign Affairs Minister?

  3. August 19, 2014 2:37 pm

    Yes, she’d be good at that job ToM.

  4. August 19, 2014 3:00 pm

    Yes Lambi has Rocks in her head and is on a Hysterical high… You just can’t make this shit up..right?

  5. egg permalink
    August 19, 2014 5:12 pm

    This is my new portfolio.

  6. Walrus permalink
    August 19, 2014 5:41 pm

    “”You just can’t make this shit up..right?””

    I was kinda hoping she was………….

  7. Walrus permalink
    August 19, 2014 5:42 pm

    “Yes, she’d be good at that job ToM.”

    Why ……………..are there lots of male diplomats hung like donkeys ?

  8. Walrus permalink
    August 19, 2014 5:45 pm

    And if the Chinese don’t get us we will all be drowning in our own blood anyway

    http://www.smh.com.au/world/islamic-state-message-to-america-we-will-drown-all-of-you-in-blood-20140819-105lv3.html

  9. egg permalink
    August 19, 2014 5:58 pm

    PUP rant heard in the majestic halls of the Middle Kingdom.

    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2014-08/19/content_18447243.htm

  10. Walrus permalink
    August 19, 2014 6:22 pm

    And as if the Chinese and the Crazy Muslims are not enough for one day Julian Assange might be shortly thrown into the Media Mix

    Dog help us all

  11. egg permalink
    August 19, 2014 7:03 pm

    Time to bring back the Brisbane Line.

  12. August 19, 2014 7:53 pm

    l have to say l`m enjoying the teabag-media pantywetting that clive has started 🙂 #go-clive

  13. Choose Your Heroes permalink
    August 19, 2014 8:08 pm

    It’s about time, someone’s finally telling it like it is.

    Beware the Yellow Peril!

    Go Clivey! 🙄

  14. August 19, 2014 8:33 pm

    Reb I hope he end up as the prison bitch and a sperm spittoon for a big hairy biker the filthy bastard.

    Another Wang Ker.. apparently Clives brain fart was the medias faulet and was taken out of context, despite going live on national TV

    http://www.smh.com.au/national/its-the-medias-fault-wang-on-palmer-chinese-bastard-comment-20140819-105u3w.html

  15. August 19, 2014 8:53 pm

    that`s right Tinfoil`osy,

    they`re back under the beds don`tcha know

  16. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 19, 2014 8:53 pm

    This is a very important topic.

    The trouble with the imminent Chinese invasion is the size of the army.

    It may be 100, 200, 300 or even 400 million strong. How do we defeat something like that??

    We will run out of bullets. Once we have run out of bullets what do we do next??

  17. Tony permalink
    August 19, 2014 8:55 pm

    “We will run out of bullets. Once we have run out of bullets what do we do next??”

    Chuck yonnies?

    😯

  18. August 19, 2014 8:59 pm

    250 to 280 million, last l heard

  19. Tony permalink
    August 19, 2014 9:09 pm

    Psst, Neil.

    First of all, a Chinese invasion is not “imminent”.

    Second, there is the small matter of transporting troops, unmolested, all the way from China to (even) the northernmost parts of Australia.

    Third, is the problem of moving troops – even if they could get here – from town to town, city to city, all the while keeping up supplies of fuel, ammo, and food. Pretty much impossible.

    (An “invasion” from within is much more feasible, but still highly unlikely.)

  20. August 19, 2014 9:30 pm

    on return from scotlandia, mr-rabbit was welcomed home by the teabag-supporters
    http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-16/the-undead-invade-hobart-again/5675932

  21. August 19, 2014 9:47 pm

    misogyny is in the eye of the beholder
    http://m.news.com.au/MostPopularNews/fi12044392.htm

  22. egg permalink
    August 19, 2014 10:34 pm

    Premier Xi said China is not interested in aggression, we come in peace to trade.

    These days large standing armies are useless and China, along with the rest of the world, is downsizing. So Neil’s concerns are misplaced.

    Late last year China admitted their nuclear submarine fleet could take out every capital city in the US, but they would rather not.

    Eventually they will rule the world, mainly because nobody else wants the job. Their greatest asset is revolutionary zeal.

  23. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 19, 2014 10:43 pm

    Chuck yonnies?

    Fart in their general direction.

  24. egg permalink
    August 19, 2014 10:56 pm

    China is also keen to have multilateral military exercises with many countries in the region, as a bulwark against terrorism and as a force to assist people caught up in natural disasters.

  25. Tom R permalink
    August 20, 2014 7:02 am

    The trouble with the imminent Chinese invasion

    😯

    Fart in their general direction.

    But what will we do should it turn out that their mothers are not in fact hampsters?

    On the upside, the pups are making the libs look quite respectable, which doesn’t say much about either of them

  26. egg permalink
    August 20, 2014 7:33 am

    And the Jihadists also think Abbott is shit, which can only be a good thing.

    ‘A #BoycottTeamAustralia campaign was being supported on ­social media…’

  27. egg permalink
    August 20, 2014 7:44 am

    A short while ago TR we agreed the budget emergency was not, and here is reasonable proof.

    ‘TREASURY figures have punctured claims of a crisis over the passage of the federal budget by revealing that 98.9 per cent of expense measures are already legislated despite a savage political fight over a handful of reforms.’

    Crowe / Oz

  28. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 20, 2014 9:01 am

    The evidence is in, Clive Palmer is a bombastic egotistical dill, his senators… hastily thrown together and clearly without adequate background checks.

    Palmer’s mob doesn’t represent any new way, they’re an embarassment.

    It always seems to start in Queensland.

  29. egg permalink
    August 20, 2014 9:09 am

    Yeah, probably just a coincidence.

  30. Tom R permalink
    August 20, 2014 9:11 am

    A short while ago TR we agreed the budget emergency was not

    You might have agreed a short while ago, I never believed their trumped up crap. It is also interesting that they say “expense measures”. My understanding was that it was the measures that improve the bottom line that haven’t got through, the “expense measures” were passed before the measures that actually are supposed to pay for them.
    Chaotic, shambolic gubmint.

    A #BoycottTeamAustralia campaign was being supported on ­social media

    It is in a deadly for for survival with #TeamMannequin

    http://www.dailylife.com.au/news-and-views/dl-opinion/sydneys-muslim-land-a-locals-perspective-20140819-3dyfv.html

  31. Tom R permalink
    August 20, 2014 9:19 am

    Clive Palmer is a bombastic egotistical dill

    I AGREE!

  32. August 20, 2014 9:23 am

    “It always seems to start in Queensland.”

    Doesn’t it just.

    I blame the heat… And the fact that it’s mostly bogans who live there.

    Did ToM and I mention that Melbourne is the world’s most livable city?

  33. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 20, 2014 9:40 am

    “most livable city”

    What does that mean? A city that appeals to this class of tosser? A greater variety of amenities targeted at gentrified inner city types? More high-culture masterbatoriums for the wankers who live there? More types of designer coffee for the latte set?

  34. TB Queensland permalink
    August 20, 2014 9:41 am

    Did ToM and I mention that Melbourne is the world’s most livable city?

    Awwww … that’s noice …. 🙂

  35. TB Queensland permalink
    August 20, 2014 9:44 am

    What’s the weather like in Melbourne?

    What’s it like now?

    What’s it like now?

    And now?

    Brissy … bright sunshine, clear blue sky, light SE sea breeze … temp 20 degrees C …

  36. egg permalink
    August 20, 2014 9:46 am

    Weatherwise Sydney is a capital city.

  37. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 20, 2014 9:48 am

    The weather in Melbourne is more often than not shite. So the citizens content themselves wih lounging about in their ever-so-trendy cafes stroking each others’ er, um .. egos and bitching about the rest of the country.

  38. August 20, 2014 9:52 am

    Do I detect a hint of sour grapes?

  39. TB Queensland permalink
    August 20, 2014 9:57 am

    On the upside, the pups are making the libs look quite respectable, which doesn’t say much about either of them

    I actually see that as a downside, TR, takes the heat of the Libs … Mathias Cormann was still spouting the same old crap on Lateline last night … first time I’ve seen a Lib Minister on the show since the Budget was announced … thanks to Clive I’d say …

    Go Clivey, Soon!

  40. August 20, 2014 10:01 am

    It appears that sloppy Joe’s been told to lay low with Cormann left to salvage whatever’s left of the budget fallout.

  41. August 20, 2014 10:03 am

    I stand corrected – He’s fronting the media to take a pot shot at big Clive.

  42. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 20, 2014 10:08 am

    And to think I thought Swan was the worst treasurer of recent times. I knew Hockey was a fool but he has well and truly exceeded expectations on that score.

  43. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 20, 2014 10:09 am

    It’s hilarious the way northerners talk about the weather.

    I used to live in Sydney. On 1 June people would start wearing a scarf and overcoat, even though it was 20+. They’d perspire walking around in their new winter wear. They really wanted some cool weather.

    In Brisbane it’s hot and intolerably humid in summer and winter is only a little less humid. Fashion in Brisbane is a pair of new brown sandals and a singlet with a different beer logo.

    Melbourne has a winter climate ideal for hearty French or Italian food with plenty of good red.

    That’s most ‘livable’

  44. August 20, 2014 10:09 am

    Indeed SB.

  45. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 20, 2014 10:10 am

    “I stand corrected – He’s fronting the media to take a pot shot at big Clive.”

    Pot, kettle much? We are certainly blessed with a surfeit of buffons these days.

  46. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 20, 2014 10:12 am

    The grapes are very sweet in Sydney.

  47. August 20, 2014 10:16 am

    😆

  48. August 20, 2014 10:23 am
  49. TB Queensland permalink
    August 20, 2014 10:29 am

    Pot, kettle much? We are certainly blessed with a surfeit of buffons these days.

    Hear! Hear!

    The grapes are very sweet in Sydney. Chuckle …

    However the BS quickly sours them … 🙂

  50. Walrus permalink
    August 20, 2014 11:11 am

    “”Melbourne has a winter climate ideal for hearty French or Italian food with plenty of good red. “”

    Speaking of which whilst out last night we partook of a very nice French Claret

  51. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 20, 2014 11:18 am

    I popped in here last night – http://www.chezolivier.com.au/

    With a great bottle of shiraz.

    Shiraz, Greville St and great food, that’s why it’s so liveable here!

  52. Tom R permalink
    August 20, 2014 11:32 am

    Tony Abbott says Clive Palmer’s comments regarding China are ‘over the top, shrill and wrong’
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-20/abbott-criticises-palmer-over-shrill-china-comments/5683438
    (says the ‘over the top, shrill and wrong’ previous opposition leader)

    😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

    😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

    😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

    😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

  53. Tom R permalink
    August 20, 2014 11:35 am

    Go Clivey, Soon!

    Unfortunately, we are stuck with him for as long at least as we are stuck with tabot.

    I just find it amusing that tabot has to deal with someone as ‘over the top, shrill and wrong’ as Gillard and Rudd had to contend with.

    Difference is, the media are no friends of this clown.

    I can just see how well the libs will go trying to smooth thngs over with the Chinese, as all pup said out loud is what they have been dog whistling about for years. The Chinese aren’t stupid.

  54. egg permalink
    August 20, 2014 12:25 pm

    ‘The Chinese aren’t stupid.’

    Bishop has been beating the strategic encirclement drum with the Americans, which is stupid considering China is our biggest trading partner.

  55. Tom R permalink
    August 20, 2014 12:55 pm

    It seems obvious now but the raft of promises for a “stronger economy” and “fixing the budget mess” were mere platitudes with no policy substance behind them.

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/18/clueless-coalition-floundering-while-budget-bottom-line-worsens?CMP=twt_gu

    Sorry Kouk, it seemed obvious then too

  56. Tom R permalink
    August 20, 2014 12:56 pm

    More known news

    Proposed Abbott Government changes to the welfare system will demotivate rather than assist people in work, a parliamentary inquiry has been told.

    https://newmatilda.com/2014/08/19/welfare-changes-will-be-counter-productive-senate-inquiry-hears

  57. Tom R permalink
    August 20, 2014 12:59 pm

    Another day, another broken promise.

    ”Tony Abbott is about to celebrate his first year in office with yet another broken election promise.

    ”There are no bulldozers either – just clouds of bulldust from Mr Abbott and bungling Infrastructure Minister Warren Truss … no work has commenced on the handful of new projects put forward by his government.”

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/abbotts-oneyear-roads-promise-about-to-be-broken-20140819-3dyry.html

  58. Tom R permalink
    August 20, 2014 1:00 pm

    I want my $550!

    Major polluting companies believe a carbon price will be reintroduced in Australia some time in the future, according to the first business survey released after its repeal.

    The survey of major Australian energy, mining, construction and manufacturing firms also found that 77 per cent of those who responded did not believe the repeal of the carbon price scheme was likely to reduce their overall costs.

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/carbon-tax-will-be-back-industry-believes-20140819-105uj1.html

  59. August 20, 2014 1:01 pm
  60. Tom R permalink
    August 20, 2014 1:07 pm

    It’s kinda cry or laugh

  61. Tom R permalink
    August 20, 2014 1:11 pm

    lol reb. Are shadows prescient? 😉

  62. Walrus permalink
    August 20, 2014 1:22 pm

    “”…. 77 per cent of those who responded did not believe the repeal of the carbon price scheme was likely to reduce their overall costs.”

    ROFLMAO

    “”overall costs”………………….how about Energy Costs ?

  63. egg permalink
    August 20, 2014 2:29 pm

    ‘As a result of the carbon repeal, we estimate that our New South Wales electricity customers in your billing class will this year on average save 7% on electricity based on the average total energy bill.’

    Origin

  64. TB Queensland permalink
    August 20, 2014 2:44 pm

    Unfortunately, we are stuck with him for as long at least as we are stuck with tabot.Unfortunately, we are stuck with him for as long at least as we are stuck with tabot.

    A bit longer … with any luck … Abbott should go before Clivey!

    Go Clivey, Soon!

  65. TB Queensland permalink
    August 20, 2014 2:58 pm

    the Long Shadow of Adolf Hitler

    I keep sayin’ history repeats itself … although Putin looks nothing like Stalin … chortle …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    we estimate that our New South Wales electricity customers in your billing class will this year on average save 7%

    I’ll believe that when I see it … wait for the weasel words they are being typed by Origin as I write this comment …

  66. August 20, 2014 3:50 pm

    This is a very important topic.
    The trouble with the imminent the illiterate Chinese invasion childish narration is the size of the army my stupidity

    Indeed

    I recon Jacquie Lambie makes Pauline Hanson look like a genius.

  67. Walrus permalink
    August 20, 2014 4:03 pm

    Electricity Prices in NSW are determined by IPART not the provider

  68. egg permalink
    August 20, 2014 4:06 pm

    According to the Brisbane Times, after the G20 meeting Clive has organised some kind of conference at his fun park and is confident world leaders will attend.

  69. Walrus permalink
    August 20, 2014 4:06 pm

    Clive does it as part of his bullying style with a bit of an eye on whatever his hidden agenda is at that moment in time.

    But Jackie Lambie actually believes what she is saying.

    A Queenslander born in Victoria and a Tasmanian.

    Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark………………………How the fuck did we end up at this destination in our History

  70. Tom R permalink
    August 20, 2014 4:08 pm

    .how about Energy Costs ?

    I want my $550!

    Here’s a hint. We got told things were going to be CHEAPER, not simply transferring one cost to another.

    I want my $550!

  71. egg permalink
    August 20, 2014 4:10 pm

    Dunno, its all so cringe worthy. Its worth a DD just to clear the decks of swill.

  72. Tom R permalink
    August 20, 2014 4:13 pm

    How the fuck did we end up at this destination in our History

    Do you really want me to repeat it? 😯

  73. Tom R permalink
    August 20, 2014 4:14 pm

    Its worth a DD just to clear the decks of swill.

    Election Now! ❓ 😯

  74. Walrus permalink
    August 20, 2014 4:18 pm

    “Do you really want me to repeat it?”

    Allow me…………………………………..Rudd/Gillard/Rudd

  75. TB Queensland permalink
    August 20, 2014 4:18 pm

    Electricity Prices in NSW are determined by IPART not the provider …

    Close, Wally, but NYC, I’m afraid … devil, as always, is in the detail of you comments …

    IPART makes recommendations on the granting, variation, cancellation and conditions of public utility and private water sector licences and retail energy …

    Clive does it as part of his bullying style with a bit of an eye on whatever his hidden agenda is at that moment in time.

    LOL!

    Dunno, its all so cringe worthy. Its worth a DD just to clear the decks of swill.

    Occasionally you crack* the code, egg …

    But I’m afraid The Robber Barons haven’t finished with us yet … as the nation crumbles … they don’t care … one focus and one focus only … $$$

    *intentional 🙂

  76. Walrus permalink
    August 20, 2014 4:19 pm

    “We got told things were going to be CHEAPER”

    Yep………………..cheaper than they might otherwise be

  77. Walrus permalink
    August 20, 2014 4:22 pm

    Yes but most state governments go by the iPART recommendations. Witness Origin Energy screaming blue murder around 18 months ago in Queensland

  78. Walrus permalink
    August 20, 2014 4:25 pm

    It might help with your credibility if you include the full sentence…………….

    “IPART is the independent regulator that determines the maximum prices that can be charged for certain retail energy, water and transport services in New South Wales. We also determine local government rates. To ensure the quality and reliability of these services, we monitor service delivery, audit suppliers and oversee licence compliance by certain water utilities and retail energy suppliers.””

  79. Walrus permalink
    August 20, 2014 4:26 pm

    “Yes but most state governments go by the iPART recommendations.””

    I meant to say the equivalent of IPART

  80. TB Queensland permalink
    August 20, 2014 4:37 pm

    Granted Wally … but this is the Google splurge (by IPART) …

    https://www.google.com.au/?gws_rd=ssl#newwindow=1&q=IPART

    Witness Origin Energy screaming blue murder around 18 months ago in Queensland

    Origin shat in its own nest and lost thousands of customers – including us … we refused the crawling offers to return to ..

    I still can’t figure out why we need a bunch of “retailers” skimming the pot … if the supply of electricity is a government responsibility how hard is it to calculate maintenance and admin costs and set pricing accordingly … just like the IPART or its equivalent …

    A third party only adds to the cost … fkn stupid … unless you want to become the 51st State of the Septic Tanks … and there seems to be a few of you around …

  81. Walrus permalink
    August 20, 2014 4:53 pm

    And (in case ToSy is watching) in other fossil fuel news Woodside Petroleum announced a rather good result today.

    And increased its dividend

    Yippeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !

  82. Tom R permalink
    August 20, 2014 5:25 pm

    Allow me………………………………….. to get it wrong again 😉

    Yep………………..cheaper than they might otherwise be

    well, two things,

    1. They told us it would be cheaper. not cheaper than they might otherwise be.
    2. 77 per cent of those who responded did not believe the repeal of the carbon price scheme was likely to reduce their overall costs (ie, it aint “cheaper than they might otherwise be”. It’s no bloody different.)

    I want my $550!

  83. TB Queensland permalink
    August 20, 2014 5:45 pm

    And (in case ToSy is watching) in other fossil fuel news Woodside Petroleum …
    Speaking of with a bit of an eye on whatever his hidden agenda is at that moment in time.

    And (in case ToSy is watching) in other fossil fuel news Woodside Petroleum announced a rather good result today.

    The “clue” being “fossil fuel” … Robber Baron LNP supporters … still a’viking …

  84. Walrus permalink
    August 20, 2014 5:46 pm

    No…………..I read that to say any reduction in Energy Costs will still not compensate for other Overheads rising (usually diue to additional Trade Extortion demands).

    Hence the termïnology “överall”

  85. Walrus permalink
    August 20, 2014 5:48 pm

    “(usually diue to additional Trade Extortion demands). “”

    Oooops……………should read … (usually due to additional Trade Union Extortion demands).

  86. TB Queensland permalink
    August 20, 2014 6:14 pm

    (usually due to additional Trade Union Extortion demands).

    Weasel words …

    Hence the termïnology “överall” see the viking leak … with the umlaut?

    So many clues …

  87. Tom R permalink
    August 20, 2014 6:25 pm

    Weasel words …

    Well, when you have nothing else…..

    I want my $550!

  88. egg permalink
    August 20, 2014 7:19 pm

    Rumour has it that PM Kevin Rudd once called the Chinese ‘dirty little rat fuckers”.

  89. egg permalink
    August 20, 2014 8:02 pm

    Scaper has ‘lodged a complaint to the Human Rights Commission under Section 18c’ against Clive.

  90. Meta permalink
    August 21, 2014 12:48 am

    (Decidedly off-topic, and side-stepping <a href="aspects of the side-lined issue of human rights with Chinese characteristics; but, if InfrastructureInfrastructureInfrastructure is so good, and opens up such a world of possibilities for freer trade and commerce and longstay tourism, why do some disagreeable Uyghur and Tibetan people apparently manifest such a sharp response to/from PLA countrymen and to transit stations?)

  91. Meta permalink
    August 21, 2014 12:50 am

    (Decidedly off-topic, and side-stepping aspects of the side-lined issue* of human rights with Chinese characteristics; but, if InfrastructureInfrastructureInfrastructure is so good, and opens up such a world of possibilities for freer trade and commerce and longstay tourism, why do some disagreeable Uyghur and Tibetan people apparently manifest such a sharp response to/from PLA countrymen and to transit stations?)

  92. egg permalink
    August 21, 2014 7:56 am

    Its just the way of things, a new empire demands a modicum of subservience. The Romans brought civilisation to Britain, which was nice, but the locals eventually regained control of their own destiny.

    So what is happening in Uyghur is just the beginning of a long civilising process, which should be better for future generations. We can quibble over the inhumanity, especially in regards to Tibet, but ultimately a better educated and healthier populace is not a bad thing in itself.

  93. Tom R permalink
    August 21, 2014 8:05 am

    Well, the libs budget must be a total fucking mess, as the libs and their media mates have gone full court with leadershit.

    Think we will have at least another two years of it too. Entrails.

    Meanwhile, even Treasury is exposing the deliberate lies we were told by the libs.

  94. Tom R permalink
    August 21, 2014 8:17 am

    I also see that ltd news has splashed the picture of the journalist being beheaded across their pages. After the family had begged for this not to happen.

    Unconscionable bastards that they are.

  95. egg permalink
    August 21, 2014 8:21 am

    Budget ‘not that tough’ says Stevens, and there is a need need for fiscal reform. The Reserve is the authority on the subject and its not for me to dissect the entrails.

  96. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 21, 2014 8:39 am

    “Well, the libs budget must be a total fucking mess

    If it is a mess it is because they were handed a mess. A mess is not easy to clean up.

    And please don’t post any links showing future forecasts before Labor lost office.

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/labor-urged-to-apologise-over-newsletter-boasting-it-had-delivered-a-budget-surplus/story-e6frf7kx-1226572053433

    THE Opposition has called on Labor to apologise for using taxpayers money to send newsletters to households boasting it had “delivered” a Budget surplus.

    Five days before Christmas, Treasurer Wayne Swan said a surplus was “unlikely” after the Government promised more than 500 times it would be delivered.

    In Parliament, Victorian Liberals Tony Smith and Kelly O’Dwyer sought to embarrass Labor by revealing newsletters said the Budget was “back in surplus on time as promised”

  97. Tom R permalink
    August 21, 2014 8:56 am

    There is an interesting reply to one of the more recent NBN hatchet jobs

    In my view, all of these assertions are incorrect, and this taints the credibility of the audit.

    In reality, the panel spent many hours discussing and analysing the technology options and the upgrade paths, including those set out in the various proposals submitted by companies in response to the government’s Request for Proposals (RFP). The panel also independently evaluated other models for upgrades.

    The panel, which included telecommunications experts from both industry and academia, carefully scrutinised all advice it received, and drew heavily on its combined experience. Some advice was very helpful and some was considered to be of little value.

    http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2014/8/20/technology/defence-full-fibre-nbn?utm_source=exact&utm_medium=email&utm_content=870460&utm_campaign=pm&modapt

  98. Tom R permalink
    August 21, 2014 8:58 am

    And please don’t post any links showing future forecasts before Labor lost office

    reality is awkward isn’t it 😉

  99. Tom R permalink
    August 21, 2014 8:59 am

    Medibank scheme may lead to US-style ‘disaster’, warns Australian Medical Association

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/medibank-scheme-may-lead-to-usstyle-disaster-warns-australian-medical-association-20140820-1068xr.html

  100. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 21, 2014 9:07 am

    “reality is awkward isn’t it

    I really do not understand your thinking. I could post lots of forecasts from 2008-2013 and not one of them is correct. Swans first budget forecast was for a surplus of $21B and it ended up being a $27B deficit. A $48B turnaround.

    I think it is time we put peoples salaries based on their forecasts. It they get it right to within 10% they get a bonus. If they get it wrong they get a pay cut. Using that protocol Swan would not be getting a salary.

  101. TB Queensland permalink
    August 21, 2014 9:35 am

    The Mothership assures me that this is not a UFO … :mrgreen:

    http://www.news.com.au/technology/hundreds-of-people-report-seeing-a-ufo-over-houston-texas/story-e6frfrnr-1227031236832

    I could post lots of forecasts from 2008-2013 and not one of them is correct.

    But you readily accept the LNP BS … 🙄

    Asfkntoundingly hypocritical as usual …

  102. Walrus permalink
    August 21, 2014 9:40 am

    “…. After the family had begged for this not to happen.

    Unconscionable bastards that they are.”

    Oh dear………………………TomR……………………..another day and yet a new set of lies from you.

    Or do you not know the difference between a video and a still photo these days ?

    “Please honor James Foley and respect my family’s privacy. Don’t watch the video. Don’t share it. That’s not how life should be.—

    Kelly Foley (@ke11yfoley)””

  103. Tom R permalink
    August 21, 2014 9:48 am

    I could post lots of forecasts from 2008-2013 and not one of them is correct.

    I could do the same from decades back. However, it is what we work with, imperfect forecasting.

    But, the graph dispels the lie about Labor having no plan to reduce the deficit.

  104. Tom R permalink
    August 21, 2014 9:51 am

    Or do you not know the difference between a video and a still photo these days ?

    Wow, just wow 😯

    His sister, Kelly Foley, took to Twitter asking others not to watch the video or share it in any form.

    http://cnsblog.wordpress.com/2014/08/20/using-social-media-family-of-slain-journalist-asks-public-not-to-watch-beheading-video/

  105. Walrus permalink
    August 21, 2014 9:57 am

    Wow………..Wow…………………..your link clearly does not quote her

    Otherwise you may as well condemn the Press and TV throughout the World (Not just News Limited) since various stills were on TV last night.

    Clearly it means “any form” of excerpts of the video

  106. Walrus permalink
    August 21, 2014 9:59 am

    Wow……..LOL………………….since when have you believed the CNS (Catholic News Service) ?

  107. Tom R permalink
    August 21, 2014 10:00 am

    Clearly it means “any form” of excerpts of the video

    Wow, just wow 😯

  108. Tom R permalink
    August 21, 2014 10:03 am

    for wally the pedant

    CHICAGO (CBS) — The chief executive officer of Twitter says the social media service is actively suspending accounts that post images or video of the execution of an American journalist by Islamic extremists.

    http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/08/20/twitter-suspending-accounts-that-show-images-of-james-foley-execution/

    Even twitter is behaving better than murdoch (not surprising really)

  109. egg permalink
    August 21, 2014 10:06 am

    ‘The Mothership assures me that this is not a UFO …’

    What have they got against ‘flying cigars’?

  110. Walrus permalink
    August 21, 2014 10:22 am

    Yes……….run……………..run……………………run………………….TomR

    Your original statement said the FAMILY.

    Since when has Twitter been the Family ?

  111. Meta permalink
    August 21, 2014 10:22 am

    (Not even frames…

    The creation of an extremist caliphate in the heart of Iraq and extending into Syria is not a problem miles away from home. Nor is it a problem that should be defined by a war 10 years ago. It is our concern here and now. Because if we do not act to stem the onslaught of this exceptionally dangerous terrorist movement, it will only grow stronger until it can target us on the streets of Britain. We already know that it has the murderous intent. Indeed, the first Isil-inspired terrorist acts on the continent of Europe have already taken place.

    …of the appears-to-have-the-hallmarks-of and being-verified VDO allowed? )

  112. Tom R permalink
    August 21, 2014 10:39 am

    Since when has Twitter been the Family ?

    Wow, just wow 😯

    The family tweeted they did not want the video to be viewed, in any from. Sorry if they didn’t get specific about grabbing image stills from it and plastering across front pages, but perhaps they didn’t factor in the murdoch pedantry of weaseling away from it.

    Un-fucking-conscionable

  113. TB Queensland permalink
    August 21, 2014 10:47 am

    for wally the pedant

    What a Fuckwit™ argument, Wally – even for you – and the markets not performing too bad at the moment … got a headache or somefin”? Wrong time of the month?

  114. Tom R permalink
    August 21, 2014 11:01 am

    Wrong time of the month?

    Is there a right time for wally?

  115. Meta permalink
    August 21, 2014 11:02 am

    (If freedom-fighters were wont to be extracting assets and/or excising cancer [Obama urges action to halt Isis ‘cancer’ as UK steps up fight against jihadists] on furtive forays into the field, what kind of regular- or irregular-issue oversize-scalpels would be authorized for use in opening tin-cans?)

  116. Walrus permalink
    August 21, 2014 11:03 am

    “”The family tweeted they did not want the video to be viewed, in any from””

    No they didn’t

    Would you now like to talk about Carbon Taxes and Carbon Prices ?

  117. Tom R permalink
    August 21, 2014 11:06 am

    Would you now like to talk about Carbon Taxes and Carbon Prices

    I’ve never been afraid of that discuassion. Are you still confused over it? 😉

  118. Meta permalink
    August 21, 2014 11:23 am

    (Shock v. Awe.)

  119. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 21, 2014 11:38 am

    But you readily accept the LNP BS

    I would trust forecasts under Hockey more than i do forecasts under Swan. Swans first forecast is hard to beat. Swan said we would get a $21B surplus and we got $27B DEFICIT.

    I think i understand politicians. But i don’t trust the ALP at all.

  120. August 21, 2014 12:59 pm

    They were probably catching a train back to the Gold Coast.

  121. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 21, 2014 1:15 pm

    Maybe they are refugees from Sydney following the closing of this fine venue.

  122. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 21, 2014 1:31 pm

    It’s interesting how friendliness can escalate. That little altercation is just started with–

    “After you”
    “No please, after you
    “Really, I insist, after YOU!”
    NO!!

    It’s just an indication of how good manners can get out of hand in this friendly city!

  123. egg permalink
    August 21, 2014 1:34 pm

    ** chuckle **

  124. egg permalink
    August 21, 2014 1:50 pm

    Meta these jihadist rats need to be hunted down and sent back to Syria where they were doing a fine job. Good thing we didn’t supply them with sophisticated weaponry to bring down a tyrant.

  125. TB Queensland permalink
    August 21, 2014 2:03 pm

    It’s just an indication of how good manners can get out of hand in this friendly city!

    And obviously peopled by Dickwits® … 😉

  126. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 21, 2014 2:09 pm

    Meanwhile, tempers flare in Brisbane because the temperature is permanently set to ‘baste’

    It’s a hot, humid city, that is an hour+ from the nearest beach.

    No wonder Brisbane doesn’t rate as ‘friendly’ or ‘liveable’

  127. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 21, 2014 2:16 pm

    A topic competition tread perhaps – ‘What caused the argument?’

    *’I like McDonalds’ – ‘No, KFC is far better’
    *’Ugg boots’ – ‘No moccasins are classier’

  128. egg permalink
    August 21, 2014 2:54 pm

    TB a few months ago there was a flap on Mars and Curiosity captured the drama, and they were all cigar shaped.

  129. August 21, 2014 3:18 pm

    “It’s a hot, humid city”

    Yes, and that doesn’t stop people from wearing polyester either.

  130. Tom R permalink
    August 22, 2014 8:22 am

    The salivation began a while ago by the looks, and doesn’t look like letting up

    When this investigation is fin­alised, one of two things will happen. Either charges will be laid, which will be a disaster for Labor, or charges will not be laid, and the complainant may make her story public, which will be a disaster for Labor.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/labors-looming-disasters-a-golden-opportunity-for-coalition/story-e6frg6n6-1227026029199

    In an interview published by a national newspaper on Thursday, the alleged victim was quoted as saying “I think anybody who hears my story will know I am telling the truth … I never want to see his face again.”

    It is – potentially – a short step from those sentiments to a tell-all interview. Those comments, and that possibility, will not have escaped the notice of Shorten or his advisors.

    http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/bill-shorten-faces-up-to-rape-allegations-by-attempting-to-speak-out-first-20140821-106v0r.html

    And Paul Kelly ranted about the “debasement” of politics. He’s part of the team doing the bloody “debasement”

  131. Tom R permalink
    August 22, 2014 8:23 am

  132. August 22, 2014 8:23 am
  133. Tom R permalink
    August 22, 2014 8:30 am

  134. Tom R permalink
    August 22, 2014 9:57 am

    Wow, they offered tabot a fig leaf, and he rejected it

    Prime Minister Tony Abbott has rejected a proposal by doctors to exempt pensioners from a $7 GP fee, but has left open the possibility of negotiating over whether children’s visits were charged.

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/gp-fee-tony-abbott-rejects-ama-proposal-to-exempt-pensioners-20140821-106w3t.html

  135. Tom R permalink
    August 22, 2014 9:58 am

    ROFL. ltdnews complains about leaks of selective titbits ROFL

    The leak, published in Crikey, was different only in that the material contained substantial unfiltered data which showed a whole picture rather than the selective briefing process of my day. I haven’t reviewed the numbers since I left News in August 2013, but I imagine they reveal much which has been suspected as to trends in the media.

    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/kim-williams-calls-news-corp-leaks-a-festival-of-vengeance-20140821-106r64.html

  136. TB Queensland permalink
    August 22, 2014 10:56 am

    So my TV was graced with the presence of that mealy mouthed moron pell last night on Lateline’s brief coverage of the RC into Child Abuse …

    First he likened the Catholic Church to a “trucking company” and its priests as the “drivers” therefore the church had no responsibility for what the drivers priests did, just as the trucking company would have no responsibility if a driver picked up a young lady and the driver then did something wrong …

    Well pell, dope of the decade … if the CC was a trucking company:

    † The company would have policies and procedures forbidding picking up young ladies or any other hitch-hikers .

    † If the drivers broke those policies they would be fired and reported to the authorities.

    † If between 2% and 8% drivers were carrying out illegal actions then the AFP/State police would be very interested. And more than likely civil corporate authorities.

    † And the trucking company would have a duty of care to ensure its drivers and trucks did not harm the public !

    † The church had no policies, did not report the offences, did not dismiss the priests (they just moved their “drivers” to a different “run” so they could pick up more “young ladies”).

    ———————

    pell also came across as a monetary moron …

    He was questioned over the Melbourne Solution Slush Fund (let’s call it what it is) …

    † He said he had been told – the $50,000 ceiling in 1986 would be the equivalent of $120,000 in today’s money …

    † Counsel then advised pell that it had been raised to $75,000 and that therefore was a backward step …

    † pell then replied no, it was obviously a forward step …

    (At this stage my mouth was pretty wide open … )

    Conclusions:

    † pell epitomises the centuries of abuse on ordinary people that this organisation has been responsible for … the Crusades (which we suffer today), centuries of war in Europe, the plundering of the Americas, the witchcraft pogroms, inquisitions (that continue today) to child abuse – as the church became weaker it picked on the weakest and less able to fight back …

    † pell demonstrates that the Catholic Church is still locked into the 14th Century … he’s a now a Member of the Board in the biggest fucking* company in the world!

    † The Vatican did for pell what he had done for all those recalcitrant, recidivist bastards who called themselves men of God raping and kiddie fiddling around the diocese … they simply moved him on because of his incompetence …

    † pell lives in the Vatican because he fears the truth … although I doubt anyone would try to nail him … he gets a pretty easy ride …

    † And finally … if the Catholic Church can be likened to a trucking company … then they should pay taxes!

  137. Walrus permalink
    August 22, 2014 11:45 am

    “………….He’s part of the team doing the bloody “debasement”…………””

    You mean ……………..

    Publicity given to LNP scandals = Good and should be encouraged

    Publicity given to ALP scandals = Bad as they should be covered up and the Press silenced

  138. Tom R permalink
    August 22, 2014 1:13 pm

    Publicity given to ALP scandals

    You misinterpret “scandal” with “smear” 😉

  139. Walrus permalink
    August 22, 2014 1:30 pm

    “Beheadings occur routinely in Game of Thrones. And no complaint has been laid. Why then all the fuss? ”

    – Bob Ellis (ALP Living Treasure)

  140. Tom R permalink
    August 22, 2014 1:35 pm

    Just goes to show what a dope ellis is

    HBO is groveling for mercy after airing a grisly scene starring the head of George W Bush.

    http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/us-news-blog/2012/jun/14/game-of-thrones-george-w-bush-head

  141. August 22, 2014 3:34 pm

    (Fascinating. While a younger mr-rabbit was punching holes in walls and threatening chair-things; an up and coming young shortmen may have been practicing the art of rape. We can feel reassured that no matter which `team` we have ruling over us, a consistent standard of misogyny will be applied, l suppose.)

  142. Walrus permalink
    August 22, 2014 3:49 pm

    “……….an up and coming young shortmen may have been practicing the art of rape.”

    Are you implying he might have since perfected it ?

  143. neil of Sydney permalink
    August 22, 2014 4:05 pm

    Wow look what happens now the Coalition is in power. An inquisition has begun over a mess Labor created. Nothing but silence when Gillard was in power.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/immigration/scott-morrison-clashes-with-inquiry-head-talks-of-moral-burden-of-immigration-job/story-fn9hm1gu-1227032906665?nk=23b1fb8bd12156c726e9017647820cf5

    Mr Morrison expressed disappointment the commission had not sought testimony from his four Labor predecessors, given more than 8469 children arrived in Australia by boat during the Labor years.

    “I invite the commission to rectify this situation by extending an invitation to my predecessors,’’ he urged.

    Under the Abbott government, more children had been released from detention than put in, he said.”

    I knew this would happen. Labor locks up record numbers of people and the usual suspects are generally silent. Out they all come when Abbott gets into power.

    Everyone of these children was locked up but the ALP/Greens and the people who voted for them.

  144. Tom R permalink
    August 22, 2014 4:22 pm

    While a younger mr-rabbit was punching holes in walls and threatening chair-things; an up and coming young shortmen may have been practicing the art of rape.

    There is one difference

    Everyone (but tabot) has agreed that he did in fact punch the wall.

    Nobody agrees about the accusations (smear) of the other.

    It is passing strange that nothing was said from the alleged victim until Shorten got to be leader of the ALP. The Thickens plot?

  145. August 22, 2014 4:26 pm

    Hey Squeal you utter contemptuous Cunt…

    Labor were politicising drug cheats?

    Like I said Doping is Rife and ASADA are brave to hit it head on and this fucktard masquerading as a Leader is just an opportunistic asswipe…

    ASADA…. vindicated
    Kate Lundy…. Correct
    Gillard… Brave and Correct
    Hadley…cunt fiberal puppet
    Jones….cunt fiberal puppet
    Sharks …Guilty as charged

    Essendon…very fucking guilty and next head on the block

    Fiberals… nowhere

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-21/five-cronulla-sharks-players-offered-deals-by-asada/5686314

  146. Walrus permalink
    August 22, 2014 4:36 pm

    You forgot something Ricky

    Australian Sport = 99% Falsely Accused

  147. Walrus permalink
    August 22, 2014 4:37 pm

    “”Everyone (but tabot) has agreed that he did in fact punch the wall.””

    Really ?…………………..who saw it ?

  148. Walrus permalink
    August 22, 2014 4:39 pm

    Gillian Triggs of the Human Rights Commission (or whatever the idiot is called) had a rather embarrassing exchange with Scott Morison this afternoon.

    Talk about hoisted by her own petard…………………… ROFLMAO

  149. egg permalink
    August 22, 2014 4:41 pm

    ‘The Thickens plot?’

    Only in your head.

  150. egg permalink
    August 22, 2014 4:42 pm

    ‘Talk about hoisted by her own petard…………’

    It was terrific, I felt a warm glow all over.

  151. TB Queensland permalink
    August 22, 2014 4:50 pm

    – Bob Ellis (ALP Living Treasure)

    Fuckwits™ abound in politics but I wouldn’t get too cocky, Wally .. there seems to be far more on your side of the playground …

    Out they all come when Abbott gets into power.

    Do you actually realise that the LNP have been in government for 12 months now …? Do you actually know what responsibility is …?

    Australian Sport = 99% Falsely Accused

    Don’t be such a childish prick … you sound like you bet on and fix the games … fans are leaving football (of all codes) because its just become a way for Dickheads™ to make (or lose) money …

    Some of us who used to watch regularly can’t believe some of the strange decisions made by THREE referees …

    Who pays the refs???????????

    The support by the heads of sporting bodies were simply at the press conference to give support to ASADA the anti-doping authority for ALL sport in Australia …

    Political my arse … just more fiddling for The Robber Barons by a bought – dopey – LNP government …

  152. August 22, 2014 4:53 pm

    ””””””””””””””strange that nothing was said from the alleged victim until Shorten got to be leader of the ALP.””””””””

    well, you know how it is,

    she was young and naive, shortmen was young and naive,

    almost everybody there was young and naive, at the young and naive meet-up

  153. August 22, 2014 5:01 pm

    ””’embarrassing exchange with Scott Morison this afternoon.””’

    from the clip l saw, it looked like an embarrassment for both the men too,

    petty arguing over the `degree` of the gulag

  154. egg permalink
    August 22, 2014 5:14 pm

    ‘petty arguing over the `degree` of the gulag’

    Well its not a fkn prison and has no armed guards. She looked a right dill.

  155. August 22, 2014 5:25 pm

    99% Wake the fuck up Wally… 🙄

    I can see why Abbott politicised it… he identifies with the whole fake Hero idiom
    He dons the Lycra and thinks he’s Lance Armstrong….
    He knows what its like to be tested and found to be an utter shambolic fake.

    Squeal prattles on about immorality ( the deft sign of an utter fuckwit) where is Abbott on this display of unconscionable immoral character? in the wilderness scoring points by calling the people trying to tackle it opportunists while being immorally opportunistic… Fucking ironic don’t you think?

    Sure make your Sports betting seem a little unpredictable….

    Guilty as Fuck!!!!

    http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/asada-tables-offer-to-afl-for-essendon-players-to-accept-sixmonth-bans-20140821-106qv2.html#poll

    Are you defending drug cheats Wally? I think sporting drug cheats are about as low as that bumchum Roommate Catlick kiddy fiddler Tony wrote a reference for from the Gong….

  156. Walrus permalink
    August 22, 2014 5:26 pm

    “……….fans are leaving football (of all codes) “”

    Good Dog you talk/make up such fucking crap.

    Soccer is booming in Crowds esp in Sydney and the NRL are getting huge ratings. Crowds are down because the long established traditional teams are not doing that well.

    And where are the Cricket and Rugby and Soccer drug cheats we were promised. The massive match fixing (1 case in Victoria under 11s or something) and the organised crime links.

    Fuck you talk some shit TB

    I reckon TomR is the lovechild you had with Catching Up

  157. Walrus permalink
    August 22, 2014 5:38 pm

    How many in an AFL squad Ricky (30 ? for the season) …………………….then multiply it by 18 teams, then do the same for 16 NRL teams x 28 in a squad, then Super 14 x say 28, the 8 A League teams x say 24, the Australian Cricket contracted players 30?.

    I get around 1,600 players.

    Don’t even fucking try and tell me that 1 squad of AFL plus 1 of NRL is endemic.

    Its FUCKING less than 4 % of all players. Not only that but Cronulla went fucked in that season anyway

    The whole thing was a beat up by the ALP.

  158. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 22, 2014 5:40 pm

    “Do you actually realise that the LNP have been in government for 12 months now …? Do you actually know what responsibility is …?”

    Yes and they are doing something about it. Why the inquisition now that the boats have stopped and the detention centers are slowly being emptied?

    These inquisitors are obviously Labor voters with evil hearts. They would still be silent if Labor was in power. There would be no inquisition.

    On the sports doping topic if ASADA has lots of evidence why the offer of a reduced sentence if they confess? Sounds like they do not have a lot of evidence.

  159. Walrus permalink
    August 22, 2014 5:41 pm

    And I haven’t yet included Netball or Tennis………………………………So 99% falsely accused is about right.

  160. TB Queensland permalink
    August 22, 2014 6:02 pm

    Fuck you talk some shit TB

    LOL!

    I reckon TomR is the lovechild you had with Catching Up

    Hypocrite … much!

    And where are the Cricket and Rugby and Soccer drug cheats we were promised

    “Promised” … maybe they’re coming … maybe there isn’t any … who stuck their silver spoon up your arse to make you squeal so much …

    You don’t seem to think doping sportspeople is such a big deal … I DO!

    I’m trying to figure out why your so “disappointed” … did they pick on one of “your” teams?

    The whole thing was a beat up by the ALP.

    To what fkn end?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    … why the offer of a reduced sentence if they confess?

    A simple answer … $$$$$$$$ … clubs and players won’t survive …

    BTW, kneel, I agree its pissweak …

  161. August 22, 2014 6:22 pm

    ”””Well its not a fkn prison”””’
    only to an imbecile such as ya`self,
    normal folk consider being taken(hijacked?) `against-will`/`extreme-coercion` and `freedom-removed/restricted` as `gulag/prison/concentration-camp`
    .
    ”””and has no armed guards.””’
    l didn`t say that, l don`t know, neither do you
    .
    ”””She looked a right dill.””” #so did the men

    # petty arguing over the `degree` of the gulag

  162. TB Queensland permalink
    August 22, 2014 6:22 pm

    I’m not the only one I see … no defence from the usual suspects here either … c’mon, Wal!

    http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/pells-comment-outrages-support-groups/story-e6frfku9-1227032902989

  163. Tom R permalink
    August 22, 2014 6:27 pm

    I reckon TomR is the lovechild you had with Catching Up

    Close, well, I was a lovely child 🙂

    I note a whole heap of thugby players have copped it sweet.

    The Essendon players might be wondering what the fuck their club has got them all into.

  164. Tom R permalink
    August 22, 2014 6:28 pm

    Well its not a fkn prison

    Ahh, I remember those camps we went on at tropical islands with armed guards and razor wire fences

    Good times 😉

  165. August 22, 2014 6:34 pm

    does dog-clubs and trucking companies need to be defended.?

  166. August 22, 2014 7:10 pm

    And I haven’t yet included Netball or Tennis………………………………So 99% falsely accused is about right.

    Ok Wally I will give you that…include Golf…
    The NRL is going gangbusters as is Soccer..

    Hey Squeal fucktard…you obviously dont follow sport and are ignorant to the ramifications…
    If they are innocent why are they taking a plea dickhead….

    Getting sick of this it was worse under labor…Australia runs Gulags that is bypartisan shitfully a national disgrace… whoever is in power end of story

  167. egg permalink
    August 22, 2014 7:50 pm

    ‘Ahh, I remember those camps we went on at tropical islands with armed guards and razor wire fences’

    No razor wire fences or armed guards because its only a small island. I think there was some rioting there a couple of years ago, causing around $5 million in damages, but all those involved were rewarded with a trip to the big island and residency.

  168. egg permalink
    August 22, 2014 8:29 pm

    ‘I’m not holding any ongoing grudge but he’s not the let’s have a couple of beers kind of guy anyway.’

    ‘In his book ‘The Good Fight’, Mr Swan says Kevin Rudd’s ‘prime ministership was not built to last’.

    ‘Its shelf life, being built on celebrity, as it was, was likely quite short unless he changed.
    Kevin’s treatment of people was extraordinarily vindictive and juvenile. And it was frequently on display.’

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2731456/Black-Swan-Former-Treasurer-says-biggest-regret-turbulent-times-government-not-finishing-Kevin-Rudd-2010.html#ixzz3B7DPn6Kr
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  169. August 22, 2014 9:31 pm

    ”””””””Same-Sex Marriage Won’t Begin in Virginia Thursday

    The Supreme Court is reviewing whether to take up the case
    to overturn the state’s 2006 ban.
    http://www.washingtonian.com/blogs/capitalcomment/local-news/same-sex-marriage-could-begin-in-virginia-thursday.php
    ””””””””””””””””’

    Virginia teabags don`t seem to like the idea of teh-gays getting married so are running interference on the topic. #Teabag-Panic

    .

    ,

    # Earlier

    ””””””””’A federal appeals court in Richmond on Monday upheld an lower court’s earlier decision ruling that Virginia’s ban on same-sex marriage is unconstitutional, notching another win for marriage-equality advocates and further pushing the issue back toward the Supreme Court.
    http://www.washingtonian.com/blogs/capitalcomment/local-news/federal-appeals-court-says-virginias-same-sex-marriage-ban-is-unconstitutional.php
    ”””””””””””””””””””’

    .

    (For Certain; teabags being teabags, can always be relied on to make the exact same arse-hat out of themselves; fighting and losing the exact same battle in each and every jurisdiction they possibly can.)

  170. August 22, 2014 9:36 pm

    ‘Its shelf life, being built on celebrity, as it was, was likely quite short unless he changed.
    Kevin’s treatment of people was extraordinarily vindictive and juvenile. And it was frequently on display.’

    I remember the first time I met Bob Hawke when Whitlam was elected. My father introduced me to him and said “Son ..that man will be PM one day” I asked him why many years later around 84 and dad said because he knows how to make people believe in what’s right for the country, but more importantly he delivers.

    Hawke and Keating were both great leaders but more importantly they had vision which is proven by legacy.

    Howard was a disappointment because he lost his way and let his ideology and polling dictate policy. Morrison is Howard on steroids. When Howard started bringing race into a division in the political meme…Australia changed for the worse. As much as I disagreed with Howard, I would personally address him as Prime Minister, Tony Abbott I would address as dickhead.

    I picked Rudd would be PM around the time of Latham and people thought I was mad. He is a man of populous that loves celebrity. Rudd had vision but his execution led to his execution. If you play rockstar your next album better be a cracker… He was all a bit Australian Idol for mine. The one thing Rudd would always have over Abbott is he was broke and you never forget that. It informs your decisions with empathy something sadly lacking in Abbott and most of his Ministry..

    I spoke candidly to two of his ministers and it was all too much too quick. The big problem with this government is ideology over governance and a total lack of policy vision. Its all about selling shit and cutting costs with little or no detail.

    A must for a PM is pragmatism and being a good negotiator.. Rudd had Gillard to do the hard yards there, Howard was pragmatic to a point.. Abbott is just a fucking tool bully boy who can’t get over his ego, one term Tony is a dud.

    Nobody in this current government are good negotiators, they are dictatorial and they will be punished mercilessly for it.

  171. egg permalink
    August 23, 2014 7:56 am

    You are wrong about Abbott and Morrison, its a different world to that of Hawke and Keating, a simpler age before the bipartisan agreement on refugees was broken down.

    Howard and the Tampa gave Rudd and Gillard the opportunity to do it their way, but Abbott gave the thumbs down on that strategy. None of this would have happened if wannabe guest workers all around the world had stayed put.

    Abbott is pragmatic and should be comfortably reelected in a couple of years. When that happens you will say the people are sheep and Murdoch brainwashed them, but in fact its because he is doing the people’s bidding.

    Once the infrastructure begins there will be no stopping the Coalition winning the popularity stakes.

  172. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 23, 2014 8:27 am

    “Hawke and Keating were both great leaders but more importantly they had vision which is proven by legacy.”

    Why were they so great? Did the Hawke/keating govt produce any good economic numbers? No.

    Keating lost control of the budget in his last few years as PM and govt debt went from 6% of GDP to 18%. They deregulated the banking industry leading to the collapse of several banks. Victoria almost went bankrupt. Keating was elected PM in1993 when unemployment was at 11%. Home loan interest rates were 18%. And Superannuation is not stopping people going on the pension.

    Ricky your problem is you can look at a horses arse and say it is beautiful. I think it is ugly.

  173. TB Queensland permalink
    August 23, 2014 10:52 am

    Kevin’s treatment of people was extraordinarily vindictive and juvenile. And it was frequently on display.’

    Sounds very much like the present incumbent then …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    And Superannuation is not stopping people going on the pension.

    I won’t bother answering the rest of the nonsense … but the sentence above is important …

    Compulsory super was introduced by Keating in 1992 … that’s just 22 years ago … most people work for about 45 years … it was initially 3%, it needs to be 15% to do what you expect (ie stop people needing the pension) and Keating’s plan was 12% in increments … over the years those increments have been stalled over and over again by the LNP – including this government …

    Along comes the GFC and many people lose a major part of their capital to generate income to live off … the markets have recovered well over the last couple of years BUT those retirees who lost a major portion of their capital couldn’t … there is a major difference between being in the accumulative phase of super and the drawdown phase … with no speedy recovery of the markets retirees had to drawdown on their capital thus exacerbating the lack of earning power and therefore reducing their income from super … an ever decreasing spiral … the age pension is a life-line for people who have worked all their lives and through no fault of their own … simply lost a lot of working capital …

    Why do some Australians simply ignore the massive effect of the GFC?

    FYI, I have never had compulsory super … my wife and I went into business for ourselves in 1992 … we retired in 2005 … on our own personally accrued super …

    I paid tax from 1963 to 1992 that included an age pension component … almost 30 years …

    … even you know that personal income tax was higher than during the Howard/Costello, Rudd/Gillard/Rudd and now Abbott governments … and THAT is the main reason that the Federal Government has no income … no-one pays enough fkn personal income tax!

    I suggest you read ALL of this …

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superannuation_in_Australia

  174. August 23, 2014 10:56 am

    Why were they so great? Did the Hawke/keating govt produce any good economic numbers? No.

    Yeah apart from modernising the the economy , the tax system, engaging with Asia, Marbo, Sex discrimination and introducing superannuation and a wage accord linked to productivity they did nothing 🙄

    The difference between you and me is I ride the horse and you have your head up its ass. You cannot defend Abbott with any semblance of decency so you try and invent this parallel universe constructed from a version of the past that is completely wrong.

    I will ask you straight up…. Sqweal .. Strait unqualified answer tell me why concisely
    Is Abbott a good leader…? Is he a good PM?
    What are his enduring intellectual and affable attributes? What is his parliamentary legacy? What legislation has he championed and written that has benefited Australia?

    Please enlighten me….

    Egg there you go derailing again get your head out of the horses ass Abbot started unpopular and is going backwards. Labor builds infrastructure, fiberals sell it…
    Building a road into the city is not only expensive its fucking unnecessary and dumb…

  175. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 23, 2014 11:36 am

    “Compulsory super was introduced by Keating in 1992 … that’s just 22 years ago

    TB you miss my point. Superannuation is not working because it fails to take into account human nature.

    Lots of people are getting lump sum payments they have never seen. Even after only 22 years some people are getting $250,000. What they then do is sell up, buy a nice retirement home on some nice beach in a house they would not normally be able to afford, go around the world on a holiday, use up their lump sum and then go on the pension.

    It should be paid as an annuity. If its not people will just splurge their lump sum payments and go on the pension.Why not??

  176. August 23, 2014 11:40 am

    So Squeal is not going to answer the question?

  177. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 23, 2014 11:54 am

    Abbott has not been in long enough to make a decision. But he has stopped the boats. he is emptying the detention centers the ALP created.

    His main problem is that he cannot get his budget through the Senate because he does not have the numbers. And ALP supporters made up there mind years ago. No matter who leads the Coalition they will always say the same thing.

    And Superannuation is not working because it fails to account for human nature.

  178. egg permalink
    August 23, 2014 11:57 am

    ‘Building a road into the city is not only expensive its fucking unnecessary and dumb…’

    I tend to agree, VFT into the cities is a far better option.

  179. August 23, 2014 1:26 pm

    So Squeal is not going to answer the question typical.. you really are pathetic 🙄

  180. August 23, 2014 1:33 pm

    nd ALP supporters made up there mind years ago. No matter who leads the Coalition they will always say the same thing.

    No it seem their leaders are doing for the ALP…

  181. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 23, 2014 1:58 pm

    Kevin’s treatment of people was extraordinarily vindictive and juvenile. And it was frequently on display.’

    I’m not sure this is entirely true, I was at one of those political dinners (while he was PM) and sat next to one of his advisors. She was pregnant and about to go on maternity leave, but was most complimentary about how considerate Rudd had been throughout.

    She said the performance/delivery expectations were high, and the hours could be a grind, but this was what was expected when working for a Prime Minister.

    I sometimes wonder whether Rudd’s poor reputation with people was caused by the of gossip of public servants who really aren’t used to turning up for work for more than 35 hours, and working about 15 of them

  182. Tom R permalink
    August 23, 2014 3:57 pm

    Even after only 22 years some people are getting $250,000.

    Of course, that is $250,000 less that the taxpayer must pay, but we’ll ignore that won’t we. 😉

    It’s true that currently the rate of super savings is not high enough, but, you can blame the libs for that, they have backtracked on every rise when they could. They are also the ones responsible for making super itself so ineffective for offsetting pensions by the ridiculous allowances made.

    Super is the best way of future proofing aged pensions, but the libs solution is to skew super as a money making venture for their mates, and just cut pensions from those who need it the most.

  183. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 23, 2014 4:00 pm

    “Of course, that is $250,000 less that the taxpayer must pay, but we’ll ignore that won’t we”

    No. They are spending it on round the world trips and then going on the pension.

    It should be paid as an annuity.

  184. Tom R permalink
    August 23, 2014 4:03 pm

    but was most complimentary about how considerate Rudd had been throughout.

    Yes, but did he share a fridge?

  185. Tom R permalink
    August 23, 2014 4:11 pm

    No. They are spending it on round the world trips and then going on the pension.

    We went through this before at the Cafe nil, and I showed you the link where payouts are taken into account for determining pensions.

  186. Tom R permalink
    August 23, 2014 4:12 pm

    public servants who really aren’t used to turning up for work for more than 35 hours, and working about 15 of them

    Nice try yomm 😉

    Department of Finance staff worked an extra 1200 days to put together Joe Hockey’s controversial budget and critics said it proved the bureaucracy had reached capacity and should lead to the scrapping of parts of the government’s negotiating position with 160,000 public servants.

    Staff in Finance’s budget group worked almost 10,000 hours on top of usual shifts across five months, many of them on Saturdays and Sundays, to crunch numbers for a budget the Treasurer is now battling to sell as he criss-crosses the country.

    Overtime racked up by staff working on a budget that locked in job cuts for 16,500 of their colleagues in the federal bureaucracy smashed the myth that public servants were lazy, say unions and the opposition.

    http://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/public-service/bureaucrats-forced-to-work-weekends-to-finalise-joe-hockeys-budget-20140814-103kgu.html?skin=dumb-phone

  187. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 23, 2014 4:27 pm

    “We went through this before at the Cafe nil, and I showed you the link where payouts are taken into account for determining pensions

    Really? Perhaps you could remind me. My understanding is that you can splurge your payout and then go on the pension.

    If so why not do it. Go through the $250,000 as fast as possible doing things you could normally not afford and then go on the pension.

    You need to remind me again.

  188. August 23, 2014 5:49 pm

    ””’it needs to be 15% to do what you expect (ie stop people needing the pension)””’

    #calculated under full-time-long-term employment

    #nothing calculated under short-term junk-job status

    #so-far the keating super plan has been unfulfilled, teabag have objected and opposed all stages of increase and undermined long-term employment to such an extent there will be an increase in `welfare/pension` needs post boomer. (Tho teabags would probably prefer to spend on courts and gulags as teh-usa has done.)

  189. August 23, 2014 5:56 pm

    ””’You need to remind me again.”””
    it wouldn`t matter how many times you are reminded, your willful blindness will prevent you from seeing it

    .

    ”””””””’Go through the $250,000 as fast as possible doing things you could normally not afford and then go on the pension.””””””’

    these are teabag downward-envy and fears of old,

    many of us won`t have the `big` payout, or own a home in the future, just a very meager pension to replace meager wages

  190. Tom R permalink
    August 23, 2014 6:06 pm

    My understanding is that you can splurge your payout and then go on the pension.

    It is possible, but only, as I said above, due to idiocy of the libs and their retail super mates.

    It is probably why they hate the industry funds, because, to my knowledge, it cannot be done with them.

    It is far better to close of the loopholes than abandon the scheme.

    #so-far the keating super plan has been unfulfilled

    It’s a crying shame 😦

  191. TB Queensland permalink
    August 23, 2014 6:08 pm

    Abbott has not been in long enough to make a decision.

    Chortle … choke!!!!!!!!!

    And Superannuation is not working because it fails to account for human nature.

    I see TR has answered this silliness … and BTW where does the $250,000 come from …

    http://www.news.com.au/finance/superannuation/baby-boomers-to-work-into-80s/story-e6frfmdi-1226769073673

    https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/~/media/corporate/allfiles/document/professional-resources/superannuation/household-savings-retirement.pdf

    You only need to read the Exec Summary …

    Baby Boomers are already doing it tough … if the Abbott government don’t know this then they are incompetent … if they do then they are a bunch of cruel pricks … in deference to the LNP I prefer the former … incompetents are running MY country … we need a double dissolution OR a change in LNP leadership …

    … Australian governments are supposed to govern for ALL of us … this government is controlled by the elite! The Elysium Experiment!

    Repeal Negative Gearing!

    Repeal Family Trusts!

    Cap Senior Executive pay in both business and unions!

    Reduce Parliamentarian INCOME by 10%!

    Repeal the Gold Card System for retired Ministers!

    And then tell us we have a “Budget Crisis” …

  192. TB Queensland permalink
    August 23, 2014 6:18 pm

    My understanding is that you can splurge your payout and then go on the pension.

    You know nothin’*, Kneel of Sydley … and you are not as “old” as you have indicated … the more you comment the more I am convinced that you really are a schoolboy with no life/work experience at all … just like egg and its chameleon he/she shit …

    As for your “understanding” you don’t! Who could possibly live on $17,000** a year without reverting to cat food to survive … how much income do you survive on?

    **$33,000 for a couple!

    *I’ve just finished Series 4 of GOT … about to buy the BD of the series, Wally. 🙂

  193. TB Queensland permalink
    August 23, 2014 6:20 pm

    And this is the government with all the answers … credit where its due … this is a news.com.au story … seems they are getting a bit toey about the “government” they “elected” too …

    http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/pm-says-budget-must-be-passed/story-e6frfku9-1227034097079

  194. TB Queensland permalink
    August 23, 2014 6:29 pm

    #so-far the keating super plan has been unfulfilled

    I absolutely agree … and never will!

    The concept was flawed from the start … it should have been a guaranteed return fund operated by government …

    Keating actually threw retirees to the wolves of finance – THE ROBBER BARONS!

    If super investment is long term then it should be just that … as it stands its a short term profit vehicle for … fund managers … not retirees … the system is not only flawed it is CORRUPT! (Too big to fail?)

    And do you really think this government (any government) is going to attempt to “fix” it?

    Not a chance … I pity the poor and ignorant … I really do … and personally I can do nothing to stop the wolves … and that is so fkn frustrating!

  195. Tom R permalink
    August 23, 2014 6:29 pm

    From your last link TB

    Budget back in emergency, Cormann says

    I’m getting fucken dizzy. Are we? aren’t we?

    Wish they’d make up their bloody minds.

    Although, I just listened to a bit of Something Wonky’s latest, and they were talking about this “predicament”. If the “budget emergency” is declared as over too soon, it will look like it didn’t happen, but if it takes to long to be declared as over, then the libs will take responsibility for hte “budget mess”

    Basically, it is a bullshit argument that has now tied the libs themselves in knots. It all looks so easy when you are just saying “no” from opposition.

    Team Australia™ is looking pretty clueless at the moment.

  196. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 23, 2014 6:33 pm

    “It is probably why they hate the industry funds, because, to my knowledge, it cannot be done with them.”

    Lots of ifs buts and maybes there. Why not post the link you said you posted before but wont?

    Fact is Superannuation will not work unless it is paid as an annuity. Maybe it should be a combined Super annuity and a small pension.

    But my beliefs are that most Labor policies do not work. And I am starting to worry about Superannuation. Cafe lunatic asylum has folded but over at AIMN some people have said we should liquidate the Future Fund to pay off our debt. Next it will be our Superannuation savings.

    I have no hope in socialist govts.

  197. TB Queensland permalink
    August 23, 2014 6:49 pm

    I’m getting fucken dizzy. Are we? aren’t we?

    As I said, TR, incompetent or just cruel .. kneel will know …

  198. Tom R permalink
    August 23, 2014 7:08 pm

    Fact is Superannuation will not work unless it is paid as an annuity.

    Then fix the loophole the libs put in, so it can work as planned.

    It is only there so those who can afford it can use it to rort the system.

  199. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 23, 2014 7:26 pm

    “Then fix the loophole the libs put in”

    What loophole? My understanding is that it has been that way from the beginning.

    And that is why most ALP policies do not work. They fail to take into account human nature.

    No parent has to tell a child how to lie. It just comes naturally. Parents have to teach their children to tell the truth.

    Any govt policy which relies on people to do the right thing will fail. Very few people if they get a lump sum will use it carefully. They will spend the lot and go on the pension.

  200. August 23, 2014 8:05 pm

    ”””fix the loophole”””so it can work”””#properly

    while l agree somewhat, nothing will be fixed until the `teabag-verses-teabag-lite-duopoly` is `fixed`, we desperately need Govts that will Govern, not dismantle and abdicate, state and federal,

    until one of the duopoly or, a 3rd player (with enough clout to fight the duopoly and teabag-media and, able to convince public) do this, we are all up shit-creek

  201. August 23, 2014 8:36 pm

    So Squeal is not going to answer the question typical.. Again you really are pathetic 🙄

    I’ll just take that as you, like everyone else in Australia; think that Abbott is a complete cunt

  202. egg permalink
    August 23, 2014 8:48 pm

    ‘OR a change in LNP leadership …’

    I nominate Dennis Jensen.

  203. Free Advice permalink
    August 23, 2014 9:52 pm

    “It is only there so those who can afford it can use it to rort the system.”

    Anyone who is still working and is concerned about providing for their retirement should be salary-sacrificing as much as they can afford into superannuation .

    https://www.ato.gov.au/Individuals/Super/Other-contributions/Concessional-(before-tax)-contributions/

  204. August 23, 2014 9:59 pm

    Yes Tinfoil`osy, ”’IF”’ they actually earn enough to ”’sacrifice”’

  205. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 23, 2014 10:14 pm

    “Anyone who is still working and is concerned about providing for their retirement should be salary-sacrificing as much as they can afford into superannuation . ”

    I used to salary sacrifice 7.5% of my income. After thinking about how most ALP policies fail i decided to stop salary sacrificing, lose the tax advantage and put my extra income into my home loan.

    I have no great hope that Superannuation savings will be around when i retire. When the next socialist govt gets in, after raiding the Future Fund they will then go for Superannuation savings.

  206. Tony permalink
    August 23, 2014 10:34 pm

    Neil, I’m mindful that a future (or current) government could change the rules, but am presuming they won’t do it retrospectively. (Once governments start applying laws retrospectively, we’re all buggered.)

  207. August 23, 2014 10:38 pm

    All rhetorical nonsense and nasty vitriolic projection…. but Squeal is not going to answer the question typical.. He just cant …. its Pathetic 🙄
    He just cat bring himself to, just pure conformation, like everyone else in Australia; he thinks that Abbott is a complete cunt

  208. August 23, 2014 10:44 pm

    ‘OR a change in LNP leadership …’
    I nominate Dennis Jensen.

    Yeah you would fucktard 🙄

  209. egg permalink
    August 23, 2014 10:51 pm

    ‘Basically, it is a bullshit argument …’

    They are just saying to the Senate that this is an emergency and if you don’t pass the budget in its entirety then let it be on your heads.

  210. egg permalink
    August 23, 2014 10:53 pm

    ‘Yeah you would fucktard’

    Just joking, alright I nominate Talcum Labor Lite.

  211. egg permalink
    August 24, 2014 7:04 am

    BEIJING — ‘Websites of provincial discipline inspection agencies have been a resounding success, said the top discipline inspection agency on Friday.

    ‘All 31 provincial discipline inspection agencies on the Chinese mainland now have websites, according to the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection (CCDI) of the Communist Party of China.

    ‘All these sites receive online tip-offs about officials’ misbehaviour.’

  212. egg permalink
    August 24, 2014 7:16 am

    White elephant found in Sydney.

    ‘THE desalination plant has sat idle for two years, costing taxpayers $390 million.’

    Daily Terror

  213. egg permalink
    August 24, 2014 7:20 am

    Chinese invasion meets resistance in Perth.

    ‘A racist rant which took place on an inner-city train on Friday afternoon has been captured on video by a shocked witness.

    ‘The attack took place in Perth this time, when an Aboriginal woman was seen yelling abusively at a woman of Asian descent.’

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2732621/Everybody-train-stunned-Watch-moment-woman-launches-racist-tirade-against-fellow-passenger.html#ixzz3BFi3ntG8
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

  214. August 24, 2014 8:16 am

    Politics? I think not… guilty as fuck.

    Is Tony Abbot going to retract his ironically hypocritical comments politicising ASADA’s investigation?
    Abbott said the politicisation of the ACC report was a “silly, squalid, sordid” thing to do.
    “It’s pathetic. Absolutely pathetic … It was just really appalling that people could stoop to this level,”

    http://www.smh.com.au/sport/ban-stephen-dank-from-all-sport-asada-20140823-107pn4.html

  215. Tom R permalink
    August 24, 2014 8:27 am

    Wow, it looks like I was wrong. It may have been the libs who closed of a loophole.

    Unfortunately, it renders nils argument moot, and many article attacking super very ……….. out-dated(?) 😦

    You should also keep in mind that if you have been contributing over a number of years, the law has changed what is considered as preserved contributions. This means that although you may have thought that contributions were not preserved, this may not be the case. After 1 July 1999, the law changed so that all contributions are considered to be preserved.

    http://www.theage.com.au/money/tools-and-guides/superannuation-guide–withdrawing-your-superannuation-20100531-wp51.html

    So you cannot draw down on any super contributions from after 1999 without it being considered in your pension age. I’ll give the libs that one 😉

    Anyone who is still working and is concerned about providing for their retirement should be salary-sacrificing as much as they can afford into superannuation .

    Tell me about Tony. How idealic would that be. Of course, that assumes that people have spare money an all. Unfortunately, many of us live in the real world, and the large majority of people live week to week. Spare money is not a term used very often.

    Once governments start applying laws retrospectively, we’re all buggered

    Tell me about it. I’m hoping the hex debts don’t start getting charged at the new interest rates. I’lll be buggered 😦

  216. Tom R permalink
    August 24, 2014 8:32 am

    lols, tabot tells us we don’t want another election (guess he has run away from his previous statements(?).

    The internet nasties disagree.

    Poll: Would you like to see a double dissolution election?

    Yes 96%
    No 4%

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/voters-dont-want-another-election-tony-abbott-hoses-down-claims-of-a-poor-budget-sales-job-20140822-1073fu.html

  217. August 24, 2014 8:33 am

    Is anyone planning to watch the new Dr Who tonight?

  218. August 24, 2014 8:39 am

    Tom the “Mandate ” Meme has worn out with all the surprises…
    When a vicious, vindictive rusted on troll liar cannot even bring himself (or herself?) to squeal the virtues of this dud PM in all conscious… pretty much says it all 🙄

  219. Tom R permalink
    August 24, 2014 8:40 am

    Is anyone planning to watch the new Dr Who tonight?

    I watched it last week 🙂

  220. Tom R permalink
    August 24, 2014 8:45 am

    Is Tony Abbot going to retract his ironically hypocritical comments politicising ASADA’s investigation?

    Retractions need to get in line. Currently, the Queue is buffering.

  221. Tom R permalink
    August 24, 2014 8:48 am

    (for wally way back up)

    “”Everyone (but tabot) has agreed that he did in fact punch the wall.””

    Really ?…………………..who saw it ?

    Two people at last count

    That woe-begotten spray contained a crucial error. There were two credible eye witnesses, one of whom had made a sworn statement about what happened in 1977.

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/10/andrew-bolt-the-latest-to-apologise-for-doubting-tony-abbotts-wall-punch

  222. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 24, 2014 9:48 am

    “Unfortunately, it renders nils argument moot, and many article attacking super very ……….. out-dated(?”

    Your link said this

    How is it paid?
    If you withdraw money from your superannuation you can choose to receive this by lump sum or in the form of regular payments, like a pension.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/money/tools-and-guides/superannuation-guide–withdrawing-your-superannuation-20100531-wp51.html#ixzz3BGId0jfp

    My accountant friend tells me lots of people are choosing to receive their Super payment as a lump sum when they retire. They then sell up, buy an expensive home, go on an overseas trip, use up the lump sum and then go on the pension. Apparently the value of your home does not effect your pension payment too much.

    Perhaps it should be made law that you must take your Super payment as a pension.

  223. Tom R permalink
    August 24, 2014 10:06 am

    My accountant friend tells me lots of people are choosing to receive their Super payment as a lump sum when they retire

    Ask your “accountant friend ” about how lump sums are worked out when you reach retirement age.

  224. TB Queensland permalink
    August 24, 2014 10:11 am

    The internet nasties disagree.

    Poll: Would you like to see a double dissolution election?

    Yes 96%
    No 4%

    Would that be collected as metadata or just the website it was conducted on … ?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Is anyone planning to watch the new Dr Who tonight? Nah … FYI, its showing at our local Event cinema … big screen Dr Who!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    My accountant friend tells me lots of people are choosing to receive their Super payment as a lump sum when they retire. They then sell up, buy an expensive home, go on an overseas trip, use up the lump sum and then go on the pension.

    You accountant friend talks through her/his arse …

    Speaking at the Conference of Major Superannuation Funds in Brisbane, she said the average super balance for men aged 65 was still about $198,000 and for women $112,000 but these numbers were distorted by a small proportion of people with more super and most retirees had only $70,000 to $80,000.

    Your “blanket” approach of annuity doesn’t work for everyone … (I understand your reasoning BTW) … we analysed that approach for ourselves …

    I’m a firm believer in having no debt at all when you retire and an advocate for owning your home before any investments … unfortunately many retirees still have a mortgage (friends of ours still have a mortgage – he’s 85 she’s 72) but they are asset rich and income poor so still work – not eligible for the pension because they have some commercial property they cannot sell and too much in shares … so as soon as they can they will pay off all their debt and that requires a lump sum …

    As an aside we live off our super and “skim” the earnings usually twice a year … that has worked well for us over the last 8/9 years … an annuity would constantly reduce the capital and actually cost us money … one cap does not fit all, I’m afraid …

  225. egg permalink
    August 24, 2014 10:42 am

    ‘… pretty much says it all’

    My comprehension is poor, could you say it again in another way?

  226. TB Queensland permalink
    August 24, 2014 11:10 am

    That woe-begotten spray contained a crucial error.

    And after all the apologies and court case listed to the lady in question and Bolt’s apology quoted … people still attempted to defend that it didn’t occur because Team Australia’s Leader had said so …

    And from the comments in The Guardian link ….

    Why should Abbott admit to something that he is certain did not happen?

    Much amusement this above from none other than our favourite dingbat ….

    Ian Hall … still wandering aimlessly and commenting stupidly, I see … LOL!

  227. August 24, 2014 11:27 am

    More rhetorical nonsense and nasty envious vitriolic projection from the super troll….Still Squeal avoids answering the question .He just can’t bring himself to admit that like everyone else in Australia; he thinks that Abbott is a complete cunty fop flop.

    Much amusement this above from none other than our favourite dingbat ….
    Ian Hall … still wandering aimlessly and commenting stupidly, I see … LOL!

    Wonder if Andrews has kicked that bludging fruitloop off the DSP yet? Not normally vindictive but I hope so…

  228. Meta permalink
    August 24, 2014 12:11 pm

    (Something random and/or civilising: China executes eight involved in Xinjiang ‘terror attacks’.)

  229. TB Queensland permalink
    August 24, 2014 1:03 pm

    From, M’s, link …

    human rights activists say cultural oppression and intrusive security measures imposed by the … government have caused unrest in the region …

    Mmmmm … I do hope the Abbott government is taking note(s) …

  230. TB Queensland permalink
    August 24, 2014 1:09 pm

    Wonder if Andrews has kicked that bludging fruitloop off the DSP yet?

    That could apply to any one of the Abbott Ministers (starting at the top of course) …

    I mean, how ironic, here they all are, constantly sucking on the public teat and blaming others ’cause they have to give a drop or two to the very people who bought the pig, reared it and fed it …

  231. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 24, 2014 1:10 pm

    Tim Flannery said it would not rain again like it used to so State Labor govts listened and built desalinisation plants.

    http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/613m-for-desalination-plant-no-water-ordered-20140327-35k7c.html

    “Victorians will pay $613 million for the desalination plant this year, despite not a drop of water ever being ordered from the plant.

    Water Minister Peter Walsh said a recent refinancing of the desaliniation plant would save Victorian families $187 million on their water bills.

    He announced on Thursday that for the third consecutive year, he would not order any water from the Wonthaggi plant, which was built under the former Brumby Labor government.”

    For the money spent you most probably could have given every Victorian home a rainwater tank. Problem solved. But Flannery said it would not rain again.

  232. August 24, 2014 1:25 pm

    (For Certain; l can reassure TB his meta-data and content-data is safely siphoned-off for nsa and/or homeland in southern california.) #teabag.panic

  233. TB Queensland permalink
    August 24, 2014 1:32 pm

    Tim Flannery said it would not rain again like it used to so State Labor govts listened and built desalinisation plants.

    Queensland is 75% drought declared …

    For the money spent you most probably could have given every Victorian home a rainwater tank. Problem solved.

    Only if it rained …

    Most water is used by industry BTW …

    Wait till the next drought …

    And just a reminder …

    Australia is the driest inhabited continent on earth, with the least amount of water in rivers, the lowest run-off and the smallest area of permanent wetlands of all the continents.

    http://www.dfat.gov.au/facts/env_glance.html

  234. August 24, 2014 3:29 pm

    rainwater tanks, like mr-rabbits `dams`(as promoted endlessly by dumpty) depend on a little thing called `rainfall`(another junk-science denial dot-point l suppose) while desal will work until the ocean dries-out #teabags

  235. Meta permalink
    August 24, 2014 3:42 pm

    (Only if it rained …

    Perhaps, not even, or especially even, then; if water-tanks, too, are flooded under and/or standard water-treatment plants, possibly also underwater, would be drawing from over-turbid, under-settled, possibly over-flowing catchments and dams; but, that’d never happen in the land of droughts and flooding rains and purely-politically-motivated, short-term risk-assessments of unknown and unknowable and unprecedented 1:xxxx year events.)

  236. August 24, 2014 4:43 pm

    http://iainhall.wordpress.com/2014/08/23/saving-the-wet-stuff-for-when-you-need-it/
    teabag gets a new rainwater tank, not relying on dumpty`s dams

  237. egg permalink
    August 24, 2014 10:09 pm

    ‘dams`(as promoted endlessly by dumpty)’

    You might be confusing me with Andrew Bolt.

  238. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 24, 2014 10:25 pm

    “Wait till the next drought …”

    The desal plants were built for the major cities which are on the coast and it eventually rains on the coast. Flannery scared everybody into thinking it would never rain again. This from the link i gave

    “Total contract costs, without ordering water, still stand at $18.3 billion over 27 years but this is a $1.2 billion improvement on the deal Labor signed – a deal they tried to hide from Melbourne households

    $18.3B??? You could give everybody in Australia rainwater tanks for $18.3B. You could double or triple the storage capacity of areas in drought prone places. Rainwater tanks in the major cities (Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane) would mean no extra dams are needed.

    Tim Flannery has cost the country billions with his false prophecies.

  239. August 24, 2014 11:49 pm

    Operation Sovereign Borders at work… Go Scott you fucking hero..
    Suppose all you fibralators are cool with this..

    More rhetorical nonsense and nasty vitriolic projection from the super troll….Gutless Squeal avoids answering the question again… .He just cant bring himself to find one endearing feature of Abbott, the hands down, worst dysfunctional, lying, divisive PM in Australian history…

  240. August 24, 2014 11:51 pm

  241. armchair opionator permalink
    August 25, 2014 12:26 am

    http://crooksandliars.com/2014/08/hartmann-how-long-texas-changes-open-carry

    …Progressive radio host Thom Hartmann wonders how long it will take for Texas to change their open carry laws now that groups like the Huey P. Newton Gun Club are taking to the streets to protest.

    As he discussed in the segment above, they used to have open carry in California as well, and that changed back in the 60’s when a conservative Republican state assemblyman, Don Mulford proposed legislation to put a stop to the Black Panthers showing up armed to the hilt any time they heard that an African American was being stopped on their police scanners.

    Now that this is going on in Dallas, Texas, Hartmann wonders how long it’s going to take before we see the same thing happen there. As he noted, most of these open carry advocates don’t mind idiots running around with loaded firearms in public as long as they’re the right color…

  242. August 25, 2014 12:39 am

    ””””””””””most of these open carry advocates don’t mind idiots running around with loaded firearms in public as long as they’re the right color.”””””””””

    .

    ””””””””””What in the world are they going to do over at Faux “news” if more images like this one start showing up in the press? They’re going to have to choose between the open carry nuts and making people afraid of black people.””””””””””’

    #ROFL that`s an excellent find armchair, thanks 🙂

  243. August 25, 2014 12:44 am

    ‘dams`(as promoted endlessly by dumpty)’

    ””’You might be confusing me with Andrew Bolt.””’

    #pigs-arse, l don`t read blot, and blot doesn`t post here

  244. armchair opionator permalink
    August 25, 2014 1:40 am

    Sorry
    wrong thread!

  245. August 25, 2014 1:45 am

    hey armchair, this one is good too,

    (#guess what mr-rabbits teabags are trying to do)

    ”””””””’Austerity Has Made Europe’s Depression Longer Than In ’30s *
    By Dave Johnson August 23, 2014 *
    Europe’s governments are learning that spending cuts slowed economic growth and actually increased deficits. Meanwhile, America’s “Great Recession” also drags on thanks to cutbacks in government spending.

    Europe’s economic depression has now lasted longer than the Great Depression of the 1930s. Meanwhile, America’s “Great Recession” also drags on thanks to cutbacks in government spending since the stimulus.

    Europe’s leaders somehow were convinced that austerity – “deficit reduction” through cutbacks in government – would somehow lead them out of their economic doldrums. They believed that taking money out of the economy would help the economy. The result has been terrible. The Washington Post’s Wonkblog calls Europe’s austerity-lengthened depression “one of the biggest catastrophes in economic history.”

    To top it off, Europe’s governments are learning that cutting back on spending not only worsens the economic picture, causing terrible unemployment, poverty and human misery, but the worsened economic picture means less revenue coming in, thereby increasing deficits instead of lowering deficits. In other words, austerity cutbacks to fight deficits have instead made deficits worse and hurt people.
    http://crooksandliars.com/2014/08/austerity-has-made-europes-depression
    ”””””””””””””””””””

  246. egg permalink
    August 25, 2014 7:51 am

    Neil is correct on the dam business, there was no due diligence.

  247. egg permalink
    August 25, 2014 7:57 am

    ‘Suppose all you fibralators are cool with this..’

    Fuggin oath.

  248. Tom R permalink
    August 25, 2014 8:19 am

    there was no due diligence.

    Really?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Desalination_Plant#Decision_to_build

  249. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 25, 2014 8:50 am

    “Europe’s leaders somehow were convinced that austerity – “deficit reduction” through cutbacks in government – would somehow lead them out of their economic doldrums.

    Best to not get into economic doldrums to start with. So if austerity does not work i guess the author thinks more debt spending is the answer.

  250. egg permalink
    August 25, 2014 9:04 am

    ‘Really?’

    Yeah.

  251. Tom R permalink
    August 25, 2014 9:19 am

    Best to not get into economic doldrums to start with

    Tell it to Wall Street.

    Yeah.

    Actually dopey, the link has further links to studies which constitute “due diligence”.

    So ‘yeah’ doesn’t really amount to a refutation, simply further evidence of your ignorance.

  252. egg permalink
    August 25, 2014 9:48 am

    The desalination plants were built on a faulty assumption.

  253. Tom R permalink
    August 25, 2014 9:55 am

    The desalination plants were built on a faulty assumption.

    What, that we have extended droughts ❓ 😯

  254. TB Queensland permalink
    August 25, 2014 9:58 am

    RIP

    Richard Attenborough … one of the great actor/directors of our time!

  255. TB Queensland permalink
    August 25, 2014 10:15 am

    RP, classic Morrison blood on the hands …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    TR, these two “discussions” go around and around – how the solar subsidy is paid for by the poor and the desal plants were a waste of money …no actual evidence to the contrary after its been provided and I’m not doing it again … waste of effort … negative is negative … don’t make a positive at all …

    I do remember thinking what a great idea Medjya Tart Beattie had tho’ … a fleet of desal plants that could be sailed to anywhere that needed fresh water …

    And there was plenty of debate and ROI carried out for both projects … 90,000 solar systems have had an impact on peak and general demand in Queensland … that saves costs at source … and while the weather is fine now (although 75% of Queensland is drought declared) we still live on the driest inhabited continent in the world … a simple risk assessment would tell you that the chance of another serious drought soon is inevitable …

  256. Tom R permalink
    August 25, 2014 10:26 am

    a simple risk assessment would tell you that the chance of another serious drought soon is inevitable …

    But that’s for them then to worry about I guess 😦

  257. egg permalink
    August 25, 2014 10:40 am

    ‘What, that we have extended droughts’

    On the surface it appears to be a logical fallacy.

  258. August 25, 2014 10:56 am

    JUST IN CASE SQUEAL FORGOT THE QUESTION

    I will ask you straight up…. Sqweal .. Strait unqualified answer tell me why concisely
    Is Abbott a good leader…?
    Is he a good PM?
    What are his enduring intellectual and affable attributes?
    What is his parliamentary legacy?
    What legislation has he championed and written that has benefited Australia?
    Please enlighten me….

    Deft silence from our local fiberal troll.. I see NOS TOS does lots of rhetorical postulating about the past but not much critique or sticking up for Abbott…. He is obviously incapable of doing so….

    Egg…well she’s just rockin the steely dan over that picture of the baby tagged like livestock

  259. Tom R permalink
    August 25, 2014 10:56 am

    On the surface it appears to be a logical fallacy.

    Feel free to explain your reasoning.

  260. August 25, 2014 11:44 am

    Team Australia..fuck No

  261. egg permalink
    August 25, 2014 11:57 am

    No thanks.

    When I was very young and part of a artists/writers crowd in Annandale I helped Frank get elected as an Independent.

    He would come around with the committee, discuss the latest intrigues and ok the art work. I began putting up posters, which the Labor team pulled down and so I replaced them with Frank’s face.

    The Committee took notice of my zealotry and put me forward as someone with more potential. We all met up at Frank’s place after breakfast, a cramped terrace in Chippendale and we talked, but I turned his offer down.

    Imagine what might have been?

  262. August 25, 2014 12:26 pm

    Imagine what might have been?

    Chief knob polisher at a looney convention?

  263. egg permalink
    August 25, 2014 1:14 pm

    Terrific artwork.

  264. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 25, 2014 1:26 pm

  265. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 25, 2014 2:41 pm

    “RP, classic Morrison blood on the hands …”

    The only people with blood on their hands is Rudd/Gillard and the people who voted for them. Ending the Pacific Solution in a burst of moral superiority by the ALP lead to 1200 drownings that we know of and most probably 3 or 4 times that and locking out refugees from UNHCR camps.

    Thanks goodness for Morrison

  266. August 25, 2014 2:56 pm

    Thanks goodness for Morrison

    Answer the Question Squeal Troll… its pretty simple
    Is Abbott a good leader…?
    Is he a good PM?
    What are his enduring intellectual and affable attributes?
    What is his parliamentary legacy?
    What legislation has he championed and written that has benefited Australia?

  267. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 25, 2014 7:46 pm

    Yep thank goodness for Morrison. The current system while not perfect is much better than the Rudd/Gillard system. Fact is there is large scale people movement from poorer countries into wealthy countries. The USA is getting 30,000 economic immigrants/month from Mexico and Central America.

    I feel sorry for the thousands of refugees from UNHCR camps we would have taken instead of the economic immigrants under Gillard. Raza Berati risked and lost his life because he could not get a job in his chosen profession in Iraq.

    By the way not sure what the point of the picture at 11.49PM. There is no date on the picture. It could have come from the Rudd/Gillard era.

  268. August 25, 2014 11:38 pm

    So you wont Answer the Question Squeal Troll?
    Is Abbott a good leader…?
    Is he a good PM?
    What are his enduring intellectual and affable attributes?
    What is his parliamentary legacy?
    What legislation has he championed and written that has benefited Australia?

    Take a good look at that little girl thats your hero’s Scott’s handywork.

  269. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 26, 2014 5:45 am

    Got a date for the photo?? My understanding is the boats have stopped.

    It was the ALP/Greens that locked up increasing numbers and record numbers of children. Morrison is releasing them. Children in detention are down by 35% under Morrison.

    ALP/Greens locked up record numbers of people because that is what leftists/socialists do. You find out what people believe by what they do not by what they say and the ALP locked up record numbers of people.

  270. August 26, 2014 10:02 am

    So you wont Answer the Question Squeal Troll will you?
    You like all the people who voted for Abbott are embarrassed by him reflected in a -19 approval rating

    Is Abbott a good leader…?
    Is he a good PM?
    What are his enduring intellectual and affable attributes?
    What is his parliamentary legacy?
    What legislation has he championed and written that has benefited Australia?

  271. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 26, 2014 11:45 am

    “Let me ask once again, @splinta could you please provide source re your assertion “some of the guards are in fact armed”?

    I see. So that picture is supposed to prove Scott Morrison wrong re: carrying guns.

    Morrison said the detention center guards at Christmas Island do not carry guns. The people in the picture are not detention center guards and it looks like they are on a boat since i can see water and a life jacket and therefore not at Christmas Island. They are customs officials (written on back of shirt) and I guess like police are allowed to carry guns.

  272. August 26, 2014 1:04 pm

    Did I say they are detention centre guards?
    Once again you twist everything around your narrow rusted on view of the world using leftist..alp supporter and such.. As I have explained to you many times because I think you are a thick simplistic low intellect parrot.. I am a centrist…

    So you are fine with that little girl tagged like an animal by armed personnel in jackboots? This is the Australia you want is it? You are big on calling people immoral…well as a proud Australian I consider that abhorrent and immoral..

    So you wont Answer the Question Squeal Troll will you?
    You like all the people who voted for Abbott are embarrassed by him reflected in a -19 approval rating
    Is Abbott a good leader…?
    Is he a good PM?
    What are his enduring intellectual and affable attributes?
    What is his parliamentary legacy?
    What legislation has he championed and written that has benefited Australia?

    Here is another question you wont answer?
    Do you agree with what is morally happening in that that photo?

  273. August 26, 2014 1:07 pm

    I think Scotty is lying to you Squeal…

  274. August 26, 2014 1:09 pm

    Ya think?

  275. Meta permalink
    August 26, 2014 1:23 pm

    (Is Neil noisily complaining about the underwhelming response (a year or more for O/S claim processing, paltry number of available visas, must have co-sponsors already in the Australian community, no proper queue created so trans-border refugees are resorting to people-smugglers) of the Federal Government to fleeing Yazidi orphan-waifs, again? Get with Team Australia, Neil! And get behind an instantly-available extra $640 million of your tax-money going towards urgent humanitarian assistance and domestic espionage!)

  276. Walrus permalink
    August 26, 2014 1:28 pm

    Like when were those photos taken ?

    Perhaps during the Christmas Island riots under the ALP ????????????????

    And since when do the Police or Customs guard detention centres…………………….?

    LIKE NEVER

    Gillian Trigg was shown up as a complete fuckwit last week plus she has given commentary on the enquiry before it was even completed.

    She’s already decided on the Inquiry’s Report contents. In fact the grubby piece of shit that she is might as well just start handing out the Conclusions now so the Taxpayer no longer needs to pay for her pathetic fucking ego in having a few cameras pointed in her direction.

  277. Walrus permalink
    August 26, 2014 1:45 pm

    From Meta’s Link

    “………….As the head of the Australian Human Rights Commission, this year she initiated, and is leading, the National Inquiry into Children in Immigration Detention 2014.

    “It will be a challenge to shift public opinion, but I’m up for it,” Triggs says. “With my presidential power, I deliberately decided to hold an inquiry into the plight of the children in detention. It will give us a better chance to shift public opinion.”……………………””

    So there we have it……………………………..we already know what the final Report is going to say

  278. Meta permalink
    August 26, 2014 1:52 pm

    (Similar or different things to or from a 2004 Inquiry and Report, to which Neil keeps referring with some approval; with some inquiry-led, evidence-based updates to account for similiarities to and differences from the 2004 Report vis-a-vis a government-of-the-day’s prevailing policies and performances, and their incidents and incidences, as of 2014? Very likely.)

  279. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 26, 2014 2:02 pm

    “Did I say they are detention centre guards?”

    Morrison specifically said Christmas Island detention centre guards do not have weapons. Then out come all the lefties showing Customs officials and Federal Police with weapons.

    The question that should be asked is why is Triggs holding the inquiry now? She was appointed in mid-2012, watched the ALP lock up record numbers of children from 2007 till her appointment then awakes from her slumber after Abbott wins govt to hold an inquiry.

  280. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 26, 2014 2:08 pm

    What about the 2012 report? Oh, wait there wan’t one! That’s politics for you. Trigg clearly doesn’t care about kids, just the politicking. Like the morons screeching so loudly now yet not so much when hundreds of kids were drowning due to the policies they supported and well knew the consequences of.

  281. Meta permalink
    August 26, 2014 2:14 pm

    (Couldn’t it be asked why a very experienced Front Bench of very safe hands, a Front Bench comprised almost entirely of Ministers with Parliamentary and Ministerial experience extending back to before 2013, and 2010, and 2007, and 2004, might seem to have almost forgotten an important 2004 Report, such that it might appear to be an unwanted or unwelcome surprise when a 10-year review arises, when formulating and applying child-friendly and human-rights-recognisant policies in 2014, instead or additionally?)

  282. August 26, 2014 2:16 pm

    They don’t need weapons they killed that bloke by kicking the shit out of him…

    Oh..I’m a lefty? why because I point out the inconvenience of this immorality?
    See thats why i’m in Centrist and you’re a wingnut…you can’t think for yourself and when you conscious is tripped..you start with the vindictive bullshit

    My advice to you Squeal is check your own morality befor you start throwing around the word immoral and casting aspersions on others claiming “the high moral ground” because if you think that this is acceptable by any stretch or the imagination..you are brainwashed and deluded by ideology…
    Take a good hard look at yourself Squeal…

    Answer my questions Squeal.. you can’t can you?

    Do you have kids?

  283. March 12, 2015 2:43 pm

    Thanks Kimball, that gqaust url will feed the spam-trap nicely, do you have the same ip-address as kneel and dumpty.

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