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Dutton doubles down on Asylum Seeker fibs.

April 23, 2017

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The Immigration Minister, and would be leadership aspirant Peter Dutton maintains that the possible sexual assault of a five year old boy on Manus Island was the underlying cause of a recent disturbance despite the unfounded allegation being directly contradicted by the Chief police officer David Yapu and detainees at the centre.

When questioned by the ABC’s Barrie Cassidy over the veracity of Dutton’s sources when it was revealed that the boy was in fact 10 years old and not five, and willingly entered the centre to seek and receive some food rather than being led away against his will, Dutton lashed out at Cassidy accusing him of “getting his information from twitter.”

Dutton insists that the incident involving the child, and a separate sexual assault, contributed to elevating the “mood” on Manus Island before the violence.

“I have that on very good authority on the island,” he said.

“The parents of the boy involved in the incident might have a different view to the one that you have read off tweets.”

Last week he said: “I think there was concern about why the boy was being led, or for what purpose he was being led, away back into the regional processing centre.”

“I think it’s fair to say that the mood had elevated quite quickly. I think some of the local residents were quite angry about this particular incident and another alleged sexual assault,” he said.

Dutton was asked whether, given the police chief’s account, he now accepted he had got some of the information he shared last week badly wrong.

“No, I do not,” he said.

Dutton, a former cop from Queensland, protested that the police investigation should be allowed to run its course, despite fronting the media last week to offer his version of events that suggested the unrest occurred due asylum seekers enticing the boy to enter the facility ostensibly for nefarious purposes.

Dutton has form in blaming asylum seekers for many of the problems on offshore detention centres, however his blatant lies over this latest incident and attempts to paint asylum seekers as pedophiles have been exposed.

Surely his position must now be untenable.

Whether we see any recourse from a Prime Minister who is already in dire straits remains to be seen, but I doubt it.

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173 Comments leave one →
  1. TB Queensland permalink
    April 23, 2017 2:33 pm

    Dopey Dutton is liar of the first order … any Minister that can lie on national TV as he did this morning is absolutely disgraceful … and Cassidy called him out very professionally!

    I agree, sreb, Surely his position must now be untenable.

    Has this government actually done anything yet? Except shift the chairs and play Abide With Me?

    Four years in and they are still obsessing about Labor … paranoid or what?

  2. April 23, 2017 2:45 pm

    The hilarious thing is that Dutton thinks he’s PM material and the Nutjobs in the LNP agree.

    Seems like talcum has more enemies within his own party than over at the opposition.

    I think there’s another Newspoll out tomorrow. That should be interesting.

  3. TB Queensland permalink
    April 23, 2017 5:57 pm

    I think there’s another Newspoll out tomorrow. That should be interesting.

    Are polls stifling decision making? Or don’t they know what to do (except blame/attack Labor) or is the internal warfare more fiery than we can see …

    And whatever happened to Jobson Growthe?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Hi Mal,

    Just a quick note to say how grateful I am to be lazing on the beach sipping pina coladas, watching all the wiggly bums, diving daily and raving every night.

    I’m off to “our” (LOL!) bank tomorrow to draw my shhh money allowance.

    I am getting a bit bored tho’ … let me know when I can come back to Oz 2019 seems such a long time!

    Kindest Regards

    Jobson Growthe

    Rum Point Resort

    Cayman Islands

  4. TB Queensland permalink
    April 23, 2017 6:01 pm

    The hilarious thing is that Dutton thinks he’s PM material and the Nutjobs in the LNP agree.

    I know that code for … Dopey’s a Queenslander! And all the Queensland LNP are nutjobs!

    Thank Christ (I did not write Christ – I wrote fkn christ) I’m an Aussie who just happens to live in Queensland … for the weather! Chuckle …

    Have you watched The Young Pope yet?

  5. April 23, 2017 6:12 pm

    It’s not your fault that you live in Queensland, no actually maybe it is, but no I haven’t watched the Young Pope. Sounds like it could have some religious themes.

  6. Tom R permalink
    April 23, 2017 6:13 pm

    The hilarious thing is that Dutton thinks he’s PM material and the Nutjobs in the LNP agree.

    er, considering one pm is famous for ‘children overboard’, what makes you think this has any impact on his materialism?

    Of course, he could always claim he just ‘read it somewhere on social media’ 😉

  7. Tom R permalink
    April 23, 2017 6:40 pm

    Sounds like it could have some religious themes.

    You say that like it’s a bad thing?

    “Have you ever thought about your soul can it be saved?”

    🙂

  8. TB Queensland permalink
    April 23, 2017 7:25 pm

    Sounds like it could have some religious themes.

    That’s why I have always enjoyed visiting here .. the in depth insight into the most obvious concepts …

    The opening sequence is hilarious … then it becomes absolutely fkn full of boring monologues (obviously reflecting the opinions of the writer) and it’s a fkn “series” … ahhgh!

    imdb give it an 8.4 rating …

    Anyhoo, The Minister (who is also a Calathumpian BTW) has pledged me to watching another TWO episodes before we DUMP it …

    Actually it’s very cynical – in his – His?, oh FFS … pontification from the Vatican – he -should that be He? – talks to the crowds about sex, marriage of priests and masturbation as a good thing … so you might really enjoy it? Perhaps? Maybe? Who fkn knows anymore?

  9. April 23, 2017 7:48 pm

    lt was good to see braying media provide some form of `challenge` to power/govt wasn`t it, also nice to see barrie break-out of the usual insiderp `rules` and frighten a teabag.

    The,,,,hilarious thing is that Dutton thinks he`s PM material and the Nutjobs in the LNP agree,,,,

    # ,, really?? , after rabbit?? Half`a bucket of sewer water has a better grip on reality than the teabags.

  10. April 23, 2017 8:04 pm

    but,,,,no I haven`t watched the Young Pope. Sounds like it could have some religious themes,,,,

    # ,, yeah, `religious-themes` is an auotmatic turn-off for me too reb, tho l finally watched russel crowes `noah` (after many mates nagging)and accept it was a clever production of a dog-club fable.

  11. Save The Children, A Wayback permalink
    April 24, 2017 12:33 am

    (Curiously enough, while Reichsgeneralfeldmarschallprinzen von Dutton is rererunning his ‘poisoning the well’ subroutine, Mike ‘I never eat alone with anyone but my goodwife’ Pence is visiting, to reassure Valued Aussies that extreme vetting at Stalag(s) 52 and/or 53 is proceeding apace.)

  12. April 24, 2017 1:32 am

    (Prince von zombie dutton knows his poison well (sub)routine is needed to slow pence down a little. lf pence drains the gulag(s) too rapidly it could leave a zombie `beached` on the shores of (ir)relevence once again.)

  13. April 24, 2017 4:27 am

    Rabidly cheering like an imbecile for your `team` in the traditional political `duopoly` has NOT occurred in France today. The duopoly has been dumped by voters in their prezidential election. The run-off to come in the next week/s is between the `new-party` candidate and the frExit national-teabag. #yaaay.teamz (-: (-: (-:

  14. TB Queensland permalink
    April 24, 2017 10:08 am

    … watched russel crowes `noah` (after many mates nagging)and accept it was a clever production of a dog-club fable.

    D’chawot! Noah was/is considered to be a dreadful bomb, even by Rotten Tomato standards … especially the “animated” rocks … the Transformer series made more sense … (8- (

    Personally, I giggled so much, I was physically withheld from walking out of the cinema!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    Reichsgeneralfeldmarschallprinzen von Dutton

    GUFFAW!

  15. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 24, 2017 11:22 am

    Or don’t they know what to do (except blame/attack Labor) or is the internal warfare more fiery than we can see …

    Well there are still 30,000 boat people in detention costing us $3B/year left over from the Rudd/Gillard disaster

  16. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 24, 2017 12:30 pm

    Too many stuff-ups about to put economic reform into reverse
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/comment-and-analysis/too-many-stuffups-about-to-put-economic-reform-into-reverse-20170408-gvgsaq.html

    …Since the reform push has degenerated into little more than business rent-seeking – let’s cut tax on business and increase it on consumers; let’s push the legislated balance of power in industrial relations further in favour of employers – it’s neither surprising nor regrettable that voters have called a halt…

  17. Tom R permalink
    April 24, 2017 2:58 pm

    Dutton can lie all he likes in the most obscene way

    rodent did, and got away with it.
    yabot did, and got away with it.
    malcayman does, and gets away with it.

    Why potatoe be any different?

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/aliceworkman/ridiculous-dutton?utm_term=.hlEDO0W9D#.mrWLEporL

  18. April 24, 2017 6:09 pm

    fairfax/gittins,,,,the wasteful public-private partnerships, the dubious effectiveness of the Job Network, the disastrous admission of for-profit providers of childcare. The dodgy education businesses selling access to permanent residence to foreign students, the “contestable” pink batts scheme, the failure of encouraging competition between government and private schools, the huge rip-offs of students and taxpayers arising from federal and state efforts to make vocational education and training “contestable”, the privatisation of airports and ports with their monopolies intact,,,,

    # ,, Wow! armchair, whaddya know, uni-degree accounting blubbering was wrong and big-bad-bagz common sense and observation was CORRECT all along! (-: (-: (-: (-:

    ,,,,Economic rationalists are so heavily into confirmation bias they’ve managed not to notice this record of disasters, but they`ll be hard pressed not to see the next one, when for-profit providers rip off the disabled in the name of making the National Disability Insurance Scheme “contestable”,,,,

    # ,, l don`t want gittins to have kittens, but l think this is already well underway.

    ,,,,The blame must go to the econocrats who designed the national electricity market and the politicians who took their advice. That we’ve gone from about the cheapest to about the dearest electricity,,,,

    # ,, HINT, whenever the clowntown dcikheads start referring to a piece of engineering or a utility as a `market`, from that day on, it is doomed.

    ,,,,Economic rationalists and econocrats are naive, partly because many of them have never actually worked for the private sector, and are shocked to discover how powerful is the profit motive in motivating business people to game the system, look for loopholes and, far too often, simply break the law,,,,

    ,,,,but it’s also conservative governments seeing privatisation and out-sourcing in partisan rather than efficiency terms: it’s about moving economic assets and activities from the “them” column to the “us” column, so more businesses are beholden to your party and happy to donate,,,,

    # ,, in short, theft from treasury and public, which weakens the state/nation and l consider is treason.

  19. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 24, 2017 9:04 pm

    Speaking of people who get away with telling lies read this

    http://www.budget.gov.au/2012-13/content/speech/html/speech.htm

    The four years of surpluses I announce tonight are a powerful endorsement of the strength of our economy, resilience of our people, and success of our policies.

    In an uncertain and fast‑changing world, we walk tall — as a nation confidently living within its means.

    This Budget delivers a surplus this coming year, on time, as promised, and surpluses each year after that, strengthening over time.

    Wayne Swan 8/5/2012

    Why hasn’t the media questioned SWan about one of the biggest lies ever? And why has not SWan apologised for telling one of the biggest lies in Australian history??

  20. Tom R permalink
    April 24, 2017 9:14 pm

    Why hasn’t the media questioned SWan about one of the biggest lies ever?

    ROFL

    https://www.google.com.au/search?q=wayne+swan+budget+surplus&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=6939WJrnJJDp8we-m5WICw

  21. Tom R permalink
    April 26, 2017 2:20 pm

    Awkward (for some social media junkees anyways)

    Let’s get one thing straight: Australia’s NBN was not designed on the back of a beer coaster. In early 2009 when the then communications minister, Stephen Conroy, finally caught up with Prime Minister Kevin Rudd on a plane from Sydney to Melbourne, to hatch their new NBN plan, the venue for the meeting might have been unorthodox – they were literally on the fly – but Conroy was accompanied by the secretary of his department and armed with considered advice from a heavily qualified expert panel, backed up by the competition regulator. It was no thought bubble.

    https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2017/april/1490965200/paddy-manning/network-error

    Yep, malcaymnas well and truly stuffed us all here. But I bet his mates the spivs are lining their pockets from the taxpayer funded NoBN. All those $billions end up somewhere.

  22. TB Queensland permalink
    April 26, 2017 4:27 pm

    Yep, malcaymnas well and truly stuffed us all here.

    But, but … it was all Labor’s fault and don’t forget the 50,000 refugees Labor let in!

    Today’s Cable Speed: 36Mbps …

  23. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 26, 2017 9:04 pm

    Yep, malcaymnas well and truly stuffed us all here.

    What was the point of your post? I posted that article a little while ago. It appears to be one of the few articles that explains some of the details behind the NBN disaster.

    In early 2009 when the then communications minister, Stephen Conroy, finally caught up with Prime Minister Kevin Rudd on a plane from Sydney to Melbourne,

    And why did Conroy have to discuss this on a plane flight? The allegation is that Rudd was so disfunctional that it was the only place Conroy could get Rudds attention to find out what to do next since the 2007 ALP NBN policy was thrown into the bin.

  24. Tom R permalink
    April 26, 2017 9:17 pm

    The allegation is that Rudd was so disfunctional

    No goldfish, YOUR accusation was that they came up with the NBN on the back of a coaster.

    You now claim to have previously posted this article, an article which disproves an allegation you then made!

    That truly makes you … NILIAR!

  25. Tom R permalink
    April 26, 2017 9:35 pm

  26. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 26, 2017 9:50 pm

    No goldfish, YOUR accusation was that they came up with the NBN on the back of a coaster.

    That is what people on social media were saying. Looks like the plane story is correct. Rudd was so dysfunctional people could never get him to spend time to make decisions only a PM could so they caught him on a plane flight

    You now claim to have previously posted this article, an article which disproves an allegation you then made!

    Yes i posted it on the previous thread. It is the first article i have seen giving details of what lead up to the current NBN. I spent a lot of time hunting for that article. You have a short memory. You even commented on it

    Here it is. I posted it on April 19 at 11.54AM

    https://theguttertrash.com/2017/03/27/new-poll-coalition-faces-election-wipeout/#comment-138838

  27. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 27, 2017 12:13 am

  28. Urge 2 Negotiate permalink
    April 27, 2017 3:30 am

    (Lest we forget.)

  29. April 27, 2017 4:13 am

    (Amid the saber rattling; pinkists everywhere should enjoy seeing prime meddler trumbull attending the warship `insiped`; to kiss the-ronald between the cheeks. l know l will.)

    (Will trumbull tremble? l think he will.)

  30. Tom R permalink
    April 27, 2017 6:26 am

    That is what people on social media were saying.

    No it was what YOU were saying, even AFTER I showed you evidence of the LIE you shamelessly spread

    The current NBN was thought up ob the back of a drinks coaster on some plane flight

    “After much research and much input from professionals in the field”

    http://www.smh.com.au/technology/conroys-baby-still-in-cradle-20090909-fgoy.html

    http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/273959/nbn_experts_submit_regulatory_review_govt/

    NILIAR!

  31. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 27, 2017 7:46 am

    Actually the drinks coaster thing could still be true. It would not surprise me at all if Rudd jotted things down on a drinks coaster on that plane flight.

    By the way i think your second link is talking about Labors first NBN which they took to the 2007 election. It went out for tender and it went nowhere and then was thrown into the bin.

  32. Navigation Of Freedom permalink
    April 27, 2017 8:13 am

    (l know l will.

    Glug, glug, glug, glug, glug.)

  33. April 27, 2017 8:26 am

    This morning my abc breakfast clap-trap is running hard on the credlin crowds challenge to the odwyer critter while on maternaty leave, and selling it under the feminista-ism banner. For some perspective, lets crunch some numbers. Starting with my abc clap-trap hosts, trioli gets about 300Kpa/ 6K-week; while sidekick mike gets 150Kpa/ 3K-week; backbenchers get at least 3.5K-week; ministers 10K-plus a week.

    So the odwyer critter is `on-leave` and getting 10Kplus a week. On the other end of the scale is checkout chicks that get 15-to-25/hour at junk-job status; those that remain anyway; since the self-checkouts were installed. Unemployed get 250/week.

    The real story here is not the `poor` odwyer critter, couched in feminista-ism. The real story is those already ON the gravey-train are getting much more gravey. Our heros at my abc cannot report this; not because of the `pressure` of checking facts, nor the `24hour` newscycle; and definitely NOT because advertising revenue has gone to online monsters like google.

    Our heros at my abc cannot report this because they cannot `detect` nor `deduce` it. They are well and truly within the elite `bubble` financially; and are just as out of touch as the corrupt clowntown pricks. Then they `wonder` why others see them as fakenews or how brexit or the-ronald happened.

  34. Tom R permalink
    April 27, 2017 9:08 am

    By the way i think

    ROFL

    Yep

    Labor debt: Bad
    liberal debt: Good

  35. Tom R permalink
    April 27, 2017 9:48 am

  36. Tom R permalink
    April 27, 2017 10:04 am

    ohoh, looks like potatoe is going to need to be apologising, not those he smeared

    Manus Island shooting: PNG MP labelled ‘discredited witness’ by Dutton reinstated by court
    …..
    But PNG’s Chief Justice Sir Salamo Injia found there were no allegations Mr Knight obtained a personal benefit from the boat purchase and said there were serious concerns with how he had been cited by the PNG Leadership Tribunal.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-26/manus-island-shooting-mp-reinstated-following-dutton-claims/8473676

    So, my question, was this done to provide cover for the potatoe?

  37. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 27, 2017 10:38 am

    ROFL

    Why? TomR you posted this link

    http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/273959/nbn_experts_submit_regulatory_review_govt/

    What has that article got to do with the current NBN? Perhaps i am missing something but that article is talking about the NBN Rudd took to the 2007 election. Labor put it out for tender and after looking at the applications threw them all into the bin.

  38. Tom R permalink
    April 27, 2017 11:41 am

    What has that article got to do with the current NBN?

    Because it mentions the ‘expert pane’ you claimed weren’t consulting the Government, and showed them … consulting the Government

    As the article mentioned, it was panel who were conducting a “review into the regulatory environment for Australia’s looming National Broadband Network”

    And the current NBN grew from that.

    NILIAR!

  39. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 27, 2017 12:28 pm

    As the article mentioned, it was panel who were conducting a “review into the regulatory environment for Australia’s looming National Broadband Network”

    Really? I thought they were reviewing the applications to build the NBN Labor took to the 2007 election. After looking at the applications they threw them in the bin. The looming NBN the article was talking about was going to be one of the current applications. None of them turned out to be acceptable.

  40. Tom R permalink
    April 27, 2017 1:07 pm

    None of them turned out to be acceptable.

    Exactly

    and these were the ‘experts’ who were guiding Labor, the ones you denied existed.

    Try to keep up.

  41. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 27, 2017 3:43 pm

    and these were the ‘experts’ who were guiding Labor, the ones you denied existed.

    Did i? I cannot remember. But it sounds like you are claiming some sort of victory. From that Monthly article

    When Conroy received the expert panel’s advice, the only way he could get to brief the PM was to jump on that plane with him. In the end it took two flights to get Rudd, Conroy and the advisers onto the same page.

    Apparently Rudd was so disfunctional that people could not even get to meet with him to gets things done. Hence the plane flight.

    But the author does seem Labor friendly and it is quite possible that a lot of stuff was written down on that beer coaster which the journalist omits. But that article is the only one i have seen which gives some information about what went on and who knows how much of it is true.

  42. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 27, 2017 4:48 pm

    We still do not know what was written down on that drinks coaster. Mate i cannot believe you are claiming some sort of victory. After lying to Australia Labor got us into this current NBN disaster

  43. Tom R permalink
    April 27, 2017 6:32 pm

    We still do not know what was written down on that drinks coaster.

    😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

  44. April 27, 2017 6:48 pm

    lnteresting sbsnews tonight on france election. The new-label more-of the-same candidate seems to be performing poorly and the frexit-chick is gathering steam. Could this be going where l suspect it is?

  45. April 27, 2017 8:13 pm

    There is nothing more relaxing than stomping about in the long grass searching for notes on drink coasters; and fetching the nbn-denial stick. (-:

  46. Shane in QLD permalink
    April 28, 2017 7:13 am

    Looks like this is the future where nut job right wing political party’s invent news to rile up their members and abuse those they disagree with. What a wonderful future we are building for the world. It is the same as how scientists are correct in so many things but no correct in climate change according to the denialists. What amazes me in this report is that even after being proven wrong the author stands by her initial post.

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/muslim-mp-anne-aly-falsely-accused-of-refusing-to-lay-wreath-on-anzac-day-20170427-gvu0jb.html

  47. April 28, 2017 7:41 am

    Ah shane! lt looks like you fell for it.

    The real story is NOT 300 or less ku-klux-teabags write crap on fakebook.

    The real story IS braying media are trolling imbeciles on fakebook and widening the imbeciles audience tenfold; twentyfold; hundredfold etc Which is also distributing the inbecile race-hate message at similar ratio.

    HINT, fairfax probably wasted the mp`s time on this shit too, pestering her for comment etc lt is non-newsworthy clap-trap that was `easy` to produce, and designed to provoke pinkist outrage only.

  48. April 28, 2017 8:15 am

    Shane, have you noticed braying media are making much `gleeful` ado about the-ronalds `first-100-days`. Yes, it is (dumb)traditional, so l won`t accuse aljazeera, bbc and my abc24 clap-trap breakast as being save-the swampers on this one; despite all their swamp saving antics of 100-days ago. l did the maths (4×365) tho, and a 4-year prez-term is 1460-days. l just don`t think the 100 days metric has much value.

  49. Tom R permalink
    April 28, 2017 9:00 am

    lol Shane

    “I stand by the facts that were presented to me by a Facebook friend having been present at the memorial in Anne Aly’s electorate,” the post said.

    Is gary NILIAR?

  50. shaneinqld permalink
    April 28, 2017 9:02 am

    Drain

    Just WHAT have I fallen for ?.

    Widening someone’s Facebook or audience tenfold even if they are imbeciles, is NOT the issue IMO. It is the telling of lies and then refusing to believe the truth when confronted with it, and I most certainly have not fallen for that !!!

    The last sentence said it all.

    HINT. I think this was reportable and news worthy to point out the quality of the crap coming from the love Australia or Leave Party website.

  51. shaneinqld permalink
    April 28, 2017 9:05 am

    Drain.

    Trump was the one who guaranteed to the American people in a contract what he would achieve in his first 100 Days if elected. Not the media !! He is simply being held to his own guarantees. While I think 100 days is silly as well, he did the guarantee himself. He is being held to his own standards and comments and I have no problem with the media doing that. We should hold politicians to their promises because they were elected on them.

  52. Tom R permalink
    April 28, 2017 9:06 am

    But it’s all good (debt) apparently 😉

    The Abbott-Turnbull Government has more than tripled the deficit for this financial year. In their first Budget in 2014, the deficit was $10.6 billion. It’s now at $36.5 billion.

    https://realnewsone.com/2017/04/27/morrisons-plan-to-reduce-debt-deficit-is-to-change-the-budget-accounting-rules/

  53. Tom R permalink
    April 28, 2017 9:08 am

    South Australia reaches record wind output of 1,540MW

    http://reneweconomy.com.au/south-australia-reaches-record-wind-output-1540mw-24065/

    Despite all the roadblocks put in place by the libs and their fossil f(r)iends

  54. Tom R permalink
    April 28, 2017 9:13 am

  55. shaneinqld permalink
    April 28, 2017 9:21 am

    Tom R

    Yes the final sentence is unbelievable and does remind me of someone who I no longer read any comments posted but go straight past them 😉

  56. Tom R permalink
    April 28, 2017 10:15 am

    Apparently they did offer a meaculpa Shane

    Which is more than our resident ‘imbecile’ has done.

    of someone who I no longer read any comments posted but go straight past them

    I really should display as much control as you do. I wonder if this blog has become so quiet because, just perhaps, endless posts correcting the stoopid, only to be rehashed again at a later date, is just pointlessly boring to read.

    just perhaps 😉

  57. shaneinqld permalink
    April 28, 2017 11:34 am

    I think blogs become quiet when we are all so busy. I know that I have been flat out and unless it is something I catch while having a quick break I have not had the time to reply or post a link. I still make the time to look each day and see if there are any comments to be read and those to be passed over :).

  58. TB Queensland permalink
    April 28, 2017 12:43 pm

    No Internet for 24 hours …

    Internet speed today: 36 Mbps ….

  59. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 28, 2017 12:46 pm

    The Abbott-Turnbull Government has more than tripled the deficit for this financial year. In their first Budget in 2014, the deficit was $10.6 billion. It’s now at $36.5 billion.

    I can never work out why ALP supporters are so deceitful. The budget deficits are similar to what Swan was producing ie nothing has changed

  60. Tom R permalink
    April 28, 2017 2:50 pm

    No Internet for 24 hours …

    And you didn’t miss it a bit, did ya 😉

  61. April 28, 2017 7:27 pm

    OH, l punked myself. `Love-Aust` `Or-Leave` is a real party, l thought it was just fakebook shennannyganz, so yeah, it is newsworthy in the weakest sense l suppose. Fairfax can`t be accused of not covering kims-ku-klux-teabags, while giving endless covering of paulines-ku klux-teabags and talkbulls-ku klux-teabags and korys-ku klux-teabags.

  62. April 28, 2017 8:38 pm

    Yes shane. l stand corrected. When john-w led the teabags to victory down the path of ku-klu-klanism, with; `babies-thrown overboard`; `tampa`; AND `we-will decide-who we will treat like human beings` and `the manner in which we will treat them`. Then braying media is CORRECT to advise voters of all `other` flavors of ku-klux-klanism available, and all other gulag options. My appologies.

  63. TB Queensland permalink
    April 29, 2017 10:58 am

    And you didn’t miss it a bit, did ya

    Now I didn’t say that, TR … but … neel is still pumping it out …

    Been flat out all week every bloody day! (Especially Tuesday 04:30 to 22:00! Looooong day.

    Lots of work – then visitors popping in all week, all hours – astounding … noice to veg out a bit … anyhoo the good news is that I finally got my new Samsung TV to hook up to the internet …

    Probably start digging the air raid shelter in the back yard tomorrow … or just get a comfy chair out on the deck and watch Brisbane disappear … with a WT and soda!

    The Australian Conservative Party should really be called the Australian Fascist Party (extreme right) we already have a Conservative Party its called the Liberal Party …

    I was attempting to explain the difference between extreme right and extreme left leadership to my eldest grandson … eg Hitler and Stalin … both paranoid, both narcissists, both mass murderers etc … then it dawned on me – one believes a the sky faery and the other doesn’t … either way we all suffer!

    Of course he immediately began identifying modern politicians …

    Left, right or centre if you are an arsehole … that’s what you are … not a leader …

    Internet Access Speed Test: 36Mbps …

  64. April 29, 2017 12:18 pm

    They`re all fcuking tyrants-in-waiting teebz, and will impose as much tyranny as they can get away with. #ku.klux.teabags

  65. April 29, 2017 12:42 pm

    Shane, l just saw an ad on my abc for a show tonight based on the-ronalds `first-100 dayz`. Since teh-usa elections started; my abc HAVE definitely been a bunch of save-the swampers along with most of teh-usa braying media. Now they are going to reinforce their own stupidity. Watch, as my abc provide plenty of ammo for dcikheads like blot (and put him on the correct side of history too, which l fcuking hate) with lots of leftwing bias, no-balance, disrespect, mocking values and all the other horse-shit the teabag media ipa rupert press bleat about. lt will basically be fakenews, sowing the seeds of even more fakenews.

  66. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 29, 2017 12:46 pm

    neel is still pumping it out

    Just pointing out the lies/deceit of the ALP and its supporters. This really annoys me

    The Abbott-Turnbull Government has more than tripled the deficit for this financial year. In their first Budget in 2014, the deficit was $10.6 billion. It’s now at $36.5 billion

    The deficit has not tripled. It is about the same as what Swan was running. And the deficit was never $10.6B.

    It appears to be incapable for the ALP to tell the truth.

  67. TB Queensland permalink
    April 29, 2017 5:54 pm

    Why Liberal National Coalition Government’s usually give the shits!

    University Fees (expected in the Budget – chuckle)

    Fees up by 25% that’s now 65%

    Income threshold for repayment lowered

    Fees to take out the loan …

    What did TurnAbbott say about housing cost? Get yer parents to pay!

    These wankers really need to go in a big way!

    As usual the threat of war during a Liberal government … every major war Australia has declared has been by the Libs … who fuck it up … and then pass it on to Labor …

    University undergraduates, graduates and doctorates improve Australia!

    MALfunction or The Mad Abbott … what a fkn choice!

    And their USA “mate” – “I didn’t think it would be so hard … ” fucking dope! We ALL did!

  68. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 29, 2017 6:30 pm

    Why Liberal National Coalition Government’s usually give the shits!

    Likewise for me and ALP govts and the people who vote for them.

    We are now running budget deficits of $30-$40B/year which looks like ingrained. We need spending cuts but the ALP/Senate will not do that.

    About time TB of Queensland you apologised for the damage your vote has caused. We were debt free in 2005 and in 2007 we had $40B in the bank. We were one of the few countries in human history to be debt free until you voted for Rudd.

    You need to apologise in a big way.

    University undergraduates, graduates and doctorates improve Australia!

    No they don’t. WE have too many already

  69. Tom R permalink
    April 29, 2017 7:40 pm

    You need to apologise in a big way.

    You first, NILIAR!

    Meanwhile, how inane/insane is this

    (I think they also forgot how much ‘value add’ education is)

  70. Debits And Credits permalink
    April 30, 2017 5:58 am

    (You first, NILIAR!

    Perhaps we won’t need that debt truck, after all.

    I think they also forgot how much ‘value add’ education is

    Most unlikely, dear fellow.)

  71. April 30, 2017 8:08 am

    (Don`t throw away your debt-truck too soon. lt will be drafted into service to haul away the remains of hexdebt mountain; once the rains of `value-add` education subside to reveal minimal nuggets of `value-add` jobs in the bottom of the creek-bed.)

  72. TB Queensland permalink
    April 30, 2017 9:05 am

    Do people really understand the what the phrase negative – gearing means …

    Negative should be straightforward … nil, nix, none …

    Gearing … is not to, many people … I continually discover here’s a description

    the ratio of a company’s loan capital (debt) to the value of its ordinary shares (equity).

    So Negative Gearing is a tax break to ensure an investor has no or reduced debt … to purchase as many HOMES as possible …

    Why should investors have a tax break to make money, not support the countries income, increase the value of HOMES and deny first home buyers the opportunity to buy … and uni students have to “repair the budget deficit” … caused by greedy politicians and their acolytes …

    ► Multi-national Tax Haven

    ► Negative Gearing

    ► Trust Funds

    ► Super Tax for the Rich

    ► Pollie’s Perqs

    ► Ex-Pollies Perqs

    ► Tax Break for Business

    I prefer to thrive in a society, Not survive in an economy!

    I still prefer to live in a society rather than feed the greed in an LNP economy!

    Prosperity With Integrity!

  73. Debits And Credits permalink
    April 30, 2017 9:17 am

    (‘Ey? I’m not entirely sure that it’s in anyone’s (mis)user(s)-pay(s) interests to (pro(retro)actively enhance quasi-private debt, and then, reluctantly, have to repackage that quasi-public debt into (n)on-sellable tranches, for development in(to) (a) well-regulated, privat(is)e(d) (debt) market(s); and least of all VET and Uni students, renowned as they might be for bilking the world-class social services provided by/through Centrelink and/or its associates; especially as there are no recent, comparable examplars of that sort of discounted debt-as-asset(-as-asset-as-debt) reta(i)ling happening anywhere around the world, not in the UK and not in the US, for instances; and, it’s not as if, only last week, the ATO felt it necessary to make a pointy point of subtly reminding former-student offshore-abscondees that they’re highlit on this financial year’s extra-territorial hexxed list.)

  74. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 30, 2017 9:47 am

    You first, NILIAR!

    What? What for? I guess you are talking about the NBN. It was Labor in 2007 who said they would build a NBN costing only $4.7B and be finished by 2013. And the allegation that Labors new NBN policy was thought up on a plane flight on the back of a drinks coaster could be true. Looks like the plane story is true and it is quite likely Rudd jotted down things on that drinks coaster.

  75. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 30, 2017 10:21 am

    Heavens, someone tell tomM!

  76. Tom R permalink
    April 30, 2017 10:23 am

    Why should investors have a tax break to make money, not support the countries income, increase the value of HOMES and deny first home buyers the opportunity to buy

    It’s always amazed me that so many tax ‘havens’ are provided to people already with money, in which to gouge even more money from taxpayers, yet those who provide Labour get next to nix in return for their efforts.

    And watching what Trump is doing in Merica, if those who voted for him could grasp the meaning, they would be on the the streets with pitch forks.

    But, he’s smart, and he garnered the votes of those too slow to realise he’s going to worst for them than any other option on the table.

    <Labors new NBN policy was thought up on a plane flight on the back of a drinks coaster could be true.

    If you ignore the fact that they were advised by an expert council on what the best path forward was, as shown in the links I provided, but that you were unable to comprehend. NILIAR!

  77. Tom R permalink
    April 30, 2017 10:26 am

    Yes AO, the hypocrisy is amazing. But, since hanson is targeting the same demographic that got trump into power, I can’t see much of a backlash for it. As long as she keeps blaming the Asians/Aborigines/Muslims/Welfare recipients then it will all come up roses (for her)

  78. April 30, 2017 10:34 am

    (Central linked (mis)users are already targeted to assist in (up)coming (bud)Jet emergency; while totally ignoring out(sauced) corporate (wel)fare (re)cipi(antz) again. Maybe more (mis)targeted robo-zombie print(out)s will be required. Even wrong ones; which may or may(not) (re)package quasi public losses into QC prophets and other (un)taxables; which sooth the markets. For (mis)users convenience (re)payments can be maid via infra(structure) governments network provided the nodes are dry and (mis)users don`t mind the buffering.)

  79. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 30, 2017 10:58 am

    If you ignore the fact that they were advised by an expert council on what the best path forward was, as shown in the links I provided, but that you were unable to comprehend. NILIAR!

    I think you will find i provided that link in The Monthly. And we do not know what went on and what changes Rudd made. But it does look like the allegation is true. Our current NBN was thought up on a plane flight on a drinks coaster.

  80. April 30, 2017 12:00 pm

    The teabags are dumbfcuks that do not even know `what` creates jobs.

  81. Up, Tiddly, Up Up permalink
    April 30, 2017 12:06 pm

    (But it does look like the allegation is true. Our current NBN was thought up on a plane flight on a drinks coaster.

    Correct; it looks like the entire design and build of the plane was thought up on that plane flight and scribbled out on the back of a drinks coaster; who knows what changes were made, when, by whom, or why. As contrasted, say, with: years and years and years of wilfully ignoring that winged flight was required to maintain general (inter)national competitiveness and productivity, but all that the market was interested in/capable of providing was new-old balloony; selling the holey balloon in stages to mum’n’dad investors as a responsible, government-based solution to a known ailing, failing legacy balloon asset/market; buying bits of the formerly-government-owned balloon back, over and over again, at a premium, with a view to stickytaping together a multi-technology winged balloon; contracting for the wings on the balloon and/or the balloon and/or the stickytaping to be maintained at not inconsiderable ongoing cost (more than the builld, err the ‘network(s) connection(s)’, cost(s) over the half-life of the part-project); gratuitously code-sharing rerepurchased balloon parts with studious, holographic distraction-providers while the new-old wings were built piecemeal; presenting a box-kite built around a patched-up balloon, overbudget and overtime and underspecced, as the agile and innovative, Mr Broadband future-proofing we’d all been promised, as ultimate underwriters of an inevitable write-down of an end- product not fit for purpose(s), and known by its architect(s) to be so, by design, ab initio.)

  82. TB Queensland permalink
    April 30, 2017 1:18 pm

    Using M’s Metaphor … The LNP NBN

    What it should have looked like …

    Internet Access Speed Test: 36Mbps …

  83. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 30, 2017 1:48 pm

    Well there were obviously some changes made otherwise why 2 plane flights? And nobody had any idea how much a FTTP NBN would cost. And the fact that they had to catch Rudd on a plane flight rather than a normal Cabinet meeting shows how disorganised Rudd was

    Australians would not be willing to pay $200/month for a internet service no matter how good it was. As usual the ALP does not care about people

  84. Tom R permalink
    April 30, 2017 1:56 pm

    it looks like the entire design and build of the plane was thought up on that plane flight

    Yep, all done by St Kev of the Coaster

    otherwise why 2 plane flights?

    The Thickens Plots … Was a Grassy Knoll involved one wonders? Was it one or Two Coasters?

  85. TB Queensland permalink
    April 30, 2017 3:25 pm

    Was it one or Two Coasters?

    Square or round … flat or spherical .. ?

  86. Tom R permalink
    April 30, 2017 3:34 pm

    Square or round … flat or spherical .. ?

    Was there a Second Spitter Coaster?

  87. April 30, 2017 6:14 pm

    “”NILIAR””

    🙂

  88. Tom R permalink
    April 30, 2017 6:25 pm

    Welcome back to your blog reb 🙂

  89. April 30, 2017 7:22 pm

    Thank youse.

    I’ve been overseas for the last two weeks, just got back today… 🙂

  90. Tom R permalink
    April 30, 2017 9:31 pm

    Did ya come up with any cool ideas on the flight back?

  91. May 1, 2017 12:11 am

    I’d like to be able to say yes.

  92. May 1, 2017 12:12 am

    //platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  93. May 1, 2017 2:33 am

    (Securely sticky(taping) your drink(coaster) ideologist to its; all for(one); one(for) none; balloon deals; and promoting with (inert)media; will result in all balloons rising on lifting winds; (with)out smoke and/or or/and mirrors.)

  94. Tom R permalink
    May 1, 2017 9:01 am

    R101, it’s just a coaster toaster

  95. Tom R permalink
    May 1, 2017 9:45 am

    I only read it one way?

  96. TB Queensland permalink
    May 1, 2017 10:07 am

    Fucking hell! I thought Ackerman was DEAD!

    The headline IS appropriate! Very!

    That prick banned me from his site years ago for proving he was … an IDIOT!

    And the headline makes sure with Frogmouth’s name above and below it!

    Pinch punch … first of the month BTW! 🙂

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Internet Speed Test: 36Mbps

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Hey! Blogmeister w’ere ya bin boy? Lousy internet? Lazy traveller? Checkin’ out ISIS? Secret ASIO mission?

  97. Shane in QLD permalink
    May 1, 2017 3:51 pm

    TB

    Akerman banned me as well.

    Akerman published an opinion piece on the lack of manners and how nasty people have become and blaming the left with his usual hysteria.

    I decided to keep statistics on his blog of who was nasty in their comments and who was respectable. The result showed that the Left were far more respectable than the right, and I mean by a margin of 6 to 1. However it also showed that the most nasty, bitter, angry, hateful, spiteful and down right horrible person on his blog was himself when he replied to comments.

    Needless to say it was not published and I was banned ever since.

    Shows the moral standing of the man.

    Plus the company he works for as well IMO.

  98. TB Queensland permalink
    May 1, 2017 4:59 pm

    Sydney and Melbourne property prices slow as Coalition considers ‘ghost house’ tax

    The new data comes as the Turnbull government reportedly plans to charge foreigners up to $5,000 for leaving their Australian apartments empty, as part of changes to be announced in next week’s budget.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/may/01/sydney-and-melbourne-property-prices-slow-as-coalition-considers-ghost-house-tax

    ROBBER BARONS pulling up the drawbridge? LOL!

    Why just foreign investors … any Australian investors utilising negative gearing for a specified period (eg over six months) … its simply a capital gains ploy …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Shane, I just went back and commented as “The End Is Nigh” (another email) … this was in 2007 … when Rudd won, I signed in as “The End Is HERE!” LOL.

    Ackerman is, as you say, a nasty bastard. And obviously hates to be corrected … pretty much the same as any right wing screecher in any format …

    As the headline says … What Idiot (sic) Gave This Idiot a Soapbox … it’s so easy to knock the Dickwit off …

  99. Tom R permalink
    May 1, 2017 6:52 pm

    Why just foreign investors …

    Where’s all the cries of ‘racist!!’

    Oh, that’s right, it only gets called out by racist red necked libs, which is why we don’t hear it when they pull actual racist brain farts.

    it’s so easy to knock the Dickwit off …

    You gotta wonder if the headline writer had a quiet laugh as they typed it out 😉

    I would be even funnier if he writes his own 😆

  100. May 2, 2017 1:19 am

    I love how they’re about to rape new Uni students & lower HECS threshold etc. Metro scum oughta try sending their progeny to the city to study…it’s like paying for two households.

    Fucking ‘User Pays’ cunts, happily ignoring MassiveUsers who pay no tax in Oz.

    My daughter was 17yo a few days ago & shows every indication of getting into a costly degree…I hope she hangs these mercenary fucks from lamp posts if and when she ever gets the chance…and she just might…and she will recognise it when she sees it because her dad was/is/has been a cynical free-thinker…

  101. May 2, 2017 1:27 am

    Wow!

    I should really get back to reading here more regularly…still mostly intelligent people commenting (and the kneel arsehat…haven’t checked, but how does he reconcile Russian scientist goodness, PutinCorp & KingTrump).

  102. May 2, 2017 1:29 am

    Their god is dying much younger than Rome, He’s fucked over so many he can never go home…

  103. May 2, 2017 6:44 am

    (Nine(star) (cold)war geriatrics (re)freshed and (re)invigorated with fresh squirt (re)produced or/and (re)manufactured by (pink)ish savers of swamp(like) locations; assisted by the best of the best of the best we have to offer; a prime meddler of harbour(side) (non)virtues. World piece(s) is an `achievement`. What(z) not to like.)

  104. shaneinqld permalink
    May 2, 2017 9:26 am

    Maybe the arseholes can bring back some of the thousands of jobs offshored to India to the country where they make almost all their profit. HERE !!!!!

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/anz-banks-first-half-profit-rises-23-per-cent-to-34-billion-20170501-gvwinf.html

  105. shaneinqld permalink
    May 2, 2017 9:38 am

    The theft of workers wages and time is becoming such a massive scandal there must be an RC into business and the rorts of wages. Between the Banks and Business we know where most of the corruption and rorting is happening. Far, far more than the unions, that’s for sure.

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/business/retail/caltex-audits-to-date-reveal-80-per-cent-of-petrol-stations-underpaid-staff-20170501-gvwhhw.html

  106. Tom R permalink
    May 2, 2017 10:05 am

    …I hope she hangs these mercenary fucks from lamp posts if and when she ever gets the chance…

    Please form an orderly line. 😉

  107. Tom R permalink
    May 2, 2017 10:08 am

    I think tosy got the message Shane 😉 But don’t stop just because of that.

    What did happen to the rabid mob anyway?

  108. TB Queensland permalink
    May 2, 2017 10:28 am

    I should really get back to reading here more regularly

    I should really get back to commenting here more regularly

    However …

    All the “red necks” seem to have gone off into the woods looking for drop bears or a rabbit to wipe their arse with …

    Christ, they go through here like diarrhoea …

    Must be a conscience thing? LOL! 🙂

    Re: NBN … I haven’t finished reading this but thought it worth sharing …

    https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2017/april/1490965200/paddy-manning/network-error

    Today’s Internet Speed: 36Mbps

  109. TB Queensland permalink
    May 2, 2017 10:34 am

    My daughter was 17yo a few days ago & shows every indication of getting into a costly degree

    Yep, toylet my now, 19 yo g/son, is reconsidering going back … but the poor bugger has already racked up a massive debt after 18 months … rock and hard place … with no guarantees of ever earning $42000!

    And with youth unemployment up around 30% and few full time jobs … technology changes … skill losses … AI & robotics development …

    ‘Tis a difficult challenge and what was good advice today, becomes obsolete next week … !

  110. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 2, 2017 11:16 am

    Re: NBN … I haven’t finished reading this but thought it worth sharing …

    Mate we have been commenting about that article on the last 2 threads. It is the first article i have seen describing what may have gone on getting us to the current NBN. That was the article which said it took 2 plane flights not one to get Rudds attention

  111. Tom R permalink
    May 2, 2017 11:20 am

    It is the first article i have seen describing what may have gone on getting us to the current NBN.

    Yes, but that’s because you are willfully blind

  112. shaneinqld permalink
    May 2, 2017 11:59 am

    TB

    Just read the article you linked at the Monthly regarding the NBN.
    What a depressing story about infrastructure that should have made us the envy of the world. Ideology driven hatred by the LNP and Turnbull. It shows me just what a miserable person Turnbull really is.
    After all the expert research done BEFORE the NBN went ahead, and not on planes, the LNP have decimated and ruined it to the point they will claim it a white elephant to sell it off and privatise it as soon as possible to their rich mates. Once again aussies will own nothing and be screwed by rorting and thieving businesses just like in Unemployment, Education, Cleaning, Construction, Airports, Private Health etc etc. No doubt you get my drift.

  113. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 2, 2017 12:18 pm

    After all the expert research done BEFORE the NBN went ahead, and not on planes,

    Really who knows what what was discussed on that plane flight. Also that article was written by a ALP supporter and we have been talking about that article on the last 2 threads. You should be apologising for fostering on us a NBN costing us who knows what finished who knows when. If you want FTTP, pay for it yourself.

  114. Tom R permalink
    May 2, 2017 12:27 pm

    If you want FTTP, pay for it yourself.

    They’re called taxes, genius.

    We are now paying (with OUR taxes) just as much as the “Coaster” version, but are now getting nothing. Economic managers ROFL

    The only thing they manage successfully is being able to shovel tax payer dollars into the maws of their Spivs

  115. May 2, 2017 12:32 pm

    with,,,,no guarantees of ever earning $42000,,,,

    # ,, but,but,but, they are not ponzi-jobs and it is not ponzi-training tbagz,,, when l was a boy l could buy two-houses`n knock-up the misus in my lunch hour,,, these kids aren`t even trying,,,

  116. shaneinqld permalink
    May 2, 2017 1:06 pm

    Barnaby Joyce screeching on TV about building infrastructure and Badgerys Creek.
    Where are the cost benefit analysis of these projects that they demanded of the ALP ?
    They are such hypocrites, the mob of arseholes.
    I am all for building infrastructure, just not the hypocrisy of the mob pricks that are in government. I understand we build some things because it is good for the country not because we can rip off the citizens of money, but this mob have so many double standards I want to sack the lot of them.

  117. shaneinqld permalink
    May 2, 2017 1:10 pm

    Tom R

    One of my clients is a designer for the FTTK (Fibre to the Kerb) for Telstra, that’s how I knew that proposal was coming. He told me it was after they realised that FTTN was going to be a disaster. He and 12 others are working solely on that project for Telstra.

  118. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 2, 2017 1:10 pm

    We are now paying (with OUR taxes) just as much as the “Coaster” version, but are now getting nothing. Economic managers ROFL

    Really? Nobody knows how much FTTP would cost or how long it would take to build. ONly 100,000 premises were connected by the end of 2013 and there are 12 million premises in Australia

    Australians may say they like FTTP but if you told them it would cost $400/month their opinion would change.

  119. Tom R permalink
    May 2, 2017 1:22 pm

    Nobody knows how much FTTP would cost

    Except of course for the ‘experts’ you claim don’t exist.

    https://www.itnews.com.au/news/nbn-cos-second-corporate-plan-in-numbers-311348

  120. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 2, 2017 1:28 pm

    Too funny. Do not try to convince me that a govt company would gets its costs correct. Govt employees do not care about money. I thin the $90B cost i heard about would be more accurate

    FTTP would cost who knows what and finished who knows when

  121. May 2, 2017 1:40 pm

    Hey Shane, l was told by 2-X-telecoms (one on east-coast, one on west-coast, independently) the network would have copper `dead-zones` till at least 2100 due to the fcuking about cramming it with copper by the teabags, ask your telecom guys/gals (covertly) to see if they say similar.

    (l take it that `fiber-to-kerb` is same as fiber-to-user?)

  122. TB Queensland permalink
    May 2, 2017 1:47 pm

    If we are now supposed to swallow the story being pushed by the government

    Good Debt – Bad Debt

    Which of the following is Good Debt and which Bad Debt?

    ► Negative Gearing Welfare

    ► Trust Fund Welfare

    ► Super Tax Breaks for the Rich Welfare

    ► Multi-national Tax Dodge Welfare – Emphasising the PANAMA PAPERS

    ► Present Pollie’s Expenses & Perqs Welfare

    ► Post Pollie’s Expenses & Perqs Welfare

    ► Pollies International Travel Wastefulness

    ► Liberal Party Economic Incompetence

    ► Reduction or Stopping Private School Funding for Any Future Cases of Paedophilia

    ► Gay marriage plebiscite wastefulness

    ► $9.4 billion Lodge wastefulness

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    … these kids aren`t even trying …

    “these kids”? “these”? I take it you are childless … “kids”? Exactly the point … they really are kids … racking up a huge debt (thanks to governments past and present) before they even start a life as adults!

    I served as an apprentice for five years (last one in Qld) but I paid for it with reduced wages … employers don’t employ apprentices anymore … training companies do … the abortion that training has become with people trying to make money out of everything is actually killing the whole concept of learning! When I was accepted for a place at UniSA degree I was offered a 10% discount for paying upfront … but by then I was 40yo … and earning …

    Its about money, money, money! I learnt along time a go … provide the service and the dollars will folla … governments (and most people) don’t get that … provide a pathway to learning … support real outcome jobs (not reducing taxes and coal) … and collect the revenue from taxes … a healthy, happy society will do and earn more for any government …

    I never objected to paying over half our income (two income taxes and business tax) – but I have always objected to the way governments spend it – on themselves …

    If Birmingham expects uni “kids” to pay to “fix” the budget … then so should politicians after all they’re the ones who fucked it up!!!!

    Put yer money where your mouth is TurnAbbott, Joyce, Morrison, Birmingham, O’Dwyer, Cormann … and the rest of the snouts!

    We know where the bad debt is … and the leaners!

  123. shaneinqld permalink
    May 2, 2017 1:59 pm

    Drain.
    Agree, even the FTTK includes copper from the kerb to the house. If they want that replaced then I presume they will have to have a private contractor do it. Talk about a stuff up of monumental proportions causing us grief for many years to come.

  124. TB Queensland permalink
    May 2, 2017 2:00 pm

    (l take it that `fiber-to-kerb` is same as fiber-to-user?)

    Nope, it is FTTK (a new term apparently) … fibre to the user is FTTP … premises …

    The problem with the NBN in its present form is that it is a HYBRID … a term that TurnAbbott seems to think is “exciting” in some way … in fact it means the whole thing is cobbled together using materials and technology, in some cases, decades old that ANY Telstra tech will tell you is fucking stupid and bound to fail – over and over again! And cost twice, thrice the original installation to continuously repair and upgrade …

    … like running a timber or coal fired boiler to generate stem to operate a turbine to generate 12v DC then inverted to 240v AC … to operate an Amiga computer …

    Instead of installing a solar power system with energy storage and hooking up to a PC …

    Just demonstrates the pigheaded ignorance of the TurnAbbott Travelling Circus …

  125. shaneinqld permalink
    May 2, 2017 2:04 pm

    TB

    Our wonderful NBN has technology from the 2000s, from the 1900s and from the 1800s thanks to the LNP hybrid model. The word Hybrid is designed to hide this fact. If you told people do they want a service from the 1800s I am sure they would say no.

    I went on a Steam Train adventure ride on the weekend. Loved it immensely, but would I use it as my public transport now?. Of course not!! and neither should we expect the NBN to be run like this.

  126. shaneinqld permalink
    May 2, 2017 2:08 pm

    TB

    Most of our current politicians had free university education with no debt whatsoever. Now they say things have changed and we cannot afford free education. Why has it come to this, what caused this, what tax breaks and tax cuts has resulted in this, why does the LNP have a user pays mentality when most of them had everything provided free when they were students courtesy of the Government at the time. Sickening hypocrisy once again. $50,000,000,000 to the likes of the ANZ while slashing and ripping off the poor.

  127. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 2, 2017 2:13 pm

    Now they say things have changed and we cannot afford free education. Why has it come to this, what caused this,

    What caused this? The Hawke/Keating govt brought in HECS

    And people do not want to pay $400/month for FTTP. You lefties never think about what something may cost

  128. Tom R permalink
    May 2, 2017 2:33 pm

    Why has it come to this

    Good question.

    Sickening hypocrisy once again. $50,000,000,000 to the likes of the ANZ while slashing and ripping off the poor.

    Good answer

    A bit complex for NILIAR though 😉

  129. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 2, 2017 2:44 pm

    $50,000,000,000 to the likes of the ANZ while slashing and ripping off the poor.

    And that comment is why i never trust anything a ALP supporter says. The first tax cuts are to small business eg pubs, clubs, takeaways to help them employ people who lost their jobs under Rudd.

    And that comment by Shane proves to me he is an ALP supporter. Sooooo deceitful. One of the characteristics of the ALP

  130. May 2, 2017 2:44 pm

    Ha-ha, fiber-to-kerb is tragically funny, they`re abandoning their expensive `nodes` and; they`re `savings` is the seven meters of cable from the `kerb` to the house. #Guffaw

    The in-house imbecile is still (coaster)ing along, too fcuking stupid to realize its team has already won; and it and its kids have already lost; along with everybody else.

  131. shaneinqld permalink
    May 2, 2017 2:53 pm

    TB

    The cutting of taxes to the wealthy resulted in greed becoming the catch cry. Less Tax, Less Tax, Less Tax while our services and our public ownership shrink each and every year. How on earth they think we will cope in the future is beyond my comprehension. the USA is almost stuffed and it has no money to repair bridges or roads or infrastructure while it continues to give massive tax cuts to the rich and increase its debt. It makes no sense to me at all.

  132. shaneinqld permalink
    May 2, 2017 2:56 pm

    Drain

    FTTK the LNP answer simply because they do not want to admit that FTTP was the correct way to go and that their FTTN is a disaster. Lets not admit we were wrong, lets invent something which gives ground, but does not in any way reveal we were incorrect.

    As improvement in technology demands more speed and more usage of the internet, their excuses that people don’t need fast speeds will be proven totally incorrect.

  133. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 2, 2017 3:40 pm

    By the way i should state that i take my NBN position because i do not trust Labor. We were promised in 2007 a NBN costing $4.7B and finished by 2013. After they broke one of their major election policies why should anybody trust Labor.

  134. May 2, 2017 3:41 pm

    Shane, from day-1 , l have always known and said fiber-to-user was correct, and `only` way to go. l have been on too many drainage, gas, electrics, water, telco crews over the years installed in news suburb lots and `whole-road` re-news. l know too damn well too that; the cost to `districts` that have to chop-up`n patch roads and footpaths as each consumer `chooses` to connect to network would be horrific. Patched and re-re-re-patched roads are never as good and never last as long as the `undamaged` road made by the bulldozer-sized rollers and machinery.

  135. Tom R permalink
    May 2, 2017 3:44 pm

    By the way i should state that i take my NBN position because you are ignorant and ignore evidence when it suits.

  136. Moodies permalink
    May 2, 2017 3:59 pm

    (Where are the cost benefit analysis of these projects that they demanded of the ALP ?

    They’re ‘classified’? So ‘classified’ that they’re apparently leaked and spun, like a badly-dated re-run of a sexed-up weekend in June 2003, out of the green room zone at Sky News?

    Sorry, no, that’s incorrect. The formal (CBA) oversights have been sidelined, in favour of a specially-commissioned independent report, based on a partial analysis and highly-credible assumptions, delivered to/via a new makey-uppy streamlining unit in the blah blah department, on which a responsible minister, and the voting/taxpaying/(re)viewing public, now absolutely may rely.)

  137. TB Queensland permalink
    May 2, 2017 4:03 pm

    Typical Tory supporter, TR … believe the propaganda even when the facts say otherwise …

  138. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 2, 2017 4:03 pm

    TomR

    Why should i trust the ALP? They stuff up everything. After winning the election they abolished Howard govt signed contracts to bring broadband to rural Australia because they did not like Howard and then their 2007 election policy was thrown into the bin.

    And i am correct that when announced FTTP costs who knows what finished who knows when. The link you gave me showing costings was dated 8/8/2012 more than 3 years after Rudd announced FTTP

  139. shaneinqld permalink
    May 2, 2017 4:16 pm

    Drain

    Exactly do it right in the first place rather than a patchwork piece of shit that needs repairs and redesigning all the time. Just like Telstra after privatisation. When it was Telecom and Govt owned things were replaced or repaired properly, but maintenance does not generate profits, so since the sale the repairs have been dodgy and shoddy just to keep the network surviving enough to make profit, especially the copper network. Telecom had its own technicians all over the country Telstra has a few contractors instead.

  140. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 2, 2017 5:37 pm

    Exactly do it right in the first place rather than a patchwork piece of shit that needs repairs and redesigning all the time.

    Who says? You? And if you were told you would have to pay $250/month for FTTP would you say the same thing? The ALP does not care about the poor.

    This current NBN was thought up on a plane flight costing who knows what finished who knows when

  141. TB Queensland permalink
    May 2, 2017 6:41 pm

    This current NBN was thought up on a plane flight costing who knows what finished who knows when

    NO! This current HYBBRID mash up was thought out by an incompetent who now thinks he can fuck up ALL Australia not just the ORIGINAL NBN !

    TurnAbbott doesn’t know quality from quantity … and you wouldn’t either!

    Do it once and do it right!

    Shimpleton!

  142. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 2, 2017 8:11 pm

    NO! This current HYBBRID mash up was thought out by an incompetent who now thinks he can fuck up ALL Australia not just the ORIGINAL NBN !

    It is still Labors NBN. Changing it to FTTN is not a big difference. By the way FTTN was what Labor took to the 2007 election. Having a govt company, NBNCo building the thing is Labors policy.

  143. TB Queensland permalink
    May 2, 2017 8:12 pm

    D & Dr

  144. shaneinqld permalink
    May 3, 2017 5:16 am

    Turnbull announces a $22,000,000,000 cut to education payments to the states under the current agreed model while giving $50,000,000,000 to the likes of the ANZ. The hypocrisy of the man knows no bounds.

    The LNP will not be happy until we are back in the 1800s unable to read or write and surfs of the lords and lairds of the land being thankful that we are given enough to eat to survive while working every day. Think it is extreme, it all starts with chips at the edges of conditions, chips at the services government provides, chips at the welfare of the citizens while maintaining or improving the status quo for the rich.

  145. May 3, 2017 5:30 am

    (And i am correct. Yes l am. It is still Labors NbnDeLorean. ln a back to the future; future to the back version of a timeline; Labor bought the NbnDeLorean; Labor chose the leather seats; Labor chose the mags; Labor chose the color; all from inflight drink coasters. Before he was prime meddler blah-blah; the responsible makey-uppy minister of streamlining took delivery of the `never` (driven) NbnDeLorean fresh from the motorworks. After much makey-uppy tinkering under the bonnet and streamlining hooning; it wasn`t long before Police discovered the NbnDeLorean written(off) and wrapped around a power pole. The responsible makey-uppy minister of streamlining claims; it was all Labors fault the NbnDeLorean had leather seats; he wasn`t driving the NbnDeLorean; and he knows nothing about the NbnDelorean crashing; despite being the only person cut from the wreckage.)

  146. shaneinqld permalink
    May 3, 2017 5:36 am

    Australia’s disgraceful whistleblower protection laws. If you want to whistleblow on a union you will be given every support and protection from the LNP as evidenced by their RC. If you want to whistleblow on a business then you are on your own. As evidenced by the refusal of an RC into Banks, Franchises, Big Business etc etc.

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/business/workplace-relations/corporate-notforprofit-sector-lagging-on-whistleblower-protection-policies-20170428-gvuisk.html

  147. shaneinqld permalink
    May 3, 2017 5:52 am

    Drain

    ROFL

  148. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 3, 2017 6:09 am

    while giving $50,000,000,000 to the likes of the ANZ. The hypocrisy of the man knows no bounds.

    Shane

    You have to stop telling lies but you cannot. Like all ALP supporters deceit is in your blood. The first tax cuts are to small business eg pubs, clubs, takeaways

  149. Priorities permalink
    May 3, 2017 6:36 am

    (….let me get this right, Mr Shorten wants to go to war with my bank….)

  150. shaneinqld permalink
    May 3, 2017 6:44 am

    Priorities

    I wish they would go to war with the banks !!! and so do many others.

  151. shaneinqld permalink
    May 3, 2017 6:45 am

    Priorities

    The $50,000,000,000 tax cuts going to the likes of ANZ, CBA , NAB and Westpac are enough to make most people sick to the stomach.

  152. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 3, 2017 7:15 am

  153. shaneinqld permalink
    May 3, 2017 7:15 am

    This from the bank that has outsourced thousands of jobs to India to save on wages and offers staff miniscule payrises ( except of course for Management and Bonuses ).

    The Hypocrisy never ceases to amaze me. I agree wages stagnation is going to really hurt the economy and all this government can do is howl about unions. Where is Eric Abetz, you know the MP who predicted a wages explosion to spread his hatred of unions. Where is the explosion and union control and destruction of the economy by the unions.

    Looks like the economy will be decimated form exactly the opposite while greed from politicians and management shows no sign of abating.

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/anz-banks-shayne-elliott-sounds-warning-on-low-wage-growth-20170502-gvx96c.html

  154. shaneinqld permalink
    May 3, 2017 7:16 am

    Oh and now the ANZ stands to share in $50,000,000,000 of massive tax cuts while the LNP screws the poor and now our education funding.

  155. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 3, 2017 7:32 am

    Oh and now the ANZ stands to share in $50,000,000,000 of massive tax cuts while the LNP screws the poor and now our education funding.

    Can’t stop telling lies can you Shane because it is in your nature.

    By the way we are only doing these things because Labor trashed the budget and our unemployment rate. Looks like the budget is now in permanent $40B deficit but nobody wants to cut spending. Everytime a spending cut is announced people squeel. The first tax cuts are to small business eg pubs, clubs, takeaways so maybe they will put on extra staff.

  156. Good Governance 1.01 permalink
    May 3, 2017 8:13 am

    (Cool; education must be a little like evidence-led reform of energy; unilaterally announce a policy, announce another reference-of-terms review, intermeddle in subject matter of the review with wild abandon before the review is complete(d), make $400k busywork-payment(s) on a side-probe or few, shift the dambusting detail and the balloon-payment of the stated policy into someone else’s budgeting timeframe, forget about (dis)continuity, rinse and repeat.)

  157. TB Queensland permalink
    May 3, 2017 9:44 am

    There is one good thing about the “revamped” school funding … the Catholic schools are whinging … taxpayers should not pay for brainwashing children about any Religious Feary Tales …

    Odd thing about Birmingham he has sneaky looking eyes while sounding “reasonable” … there is a few twits in this tiger’s tale* … are uni students paying for this? Why another Gonski Report if the only issue is 27 disparate funding deals? (brought about by Liberal state and federal politics BTW) … because Gonski is a “personal” friend of TurnAbbott are we paying him to repeat Gonski 1.0 six years later as Gonski 2.0? Why the sudden turnaround?

    “Something is rotten in the state of Denmark” … after four years of watching a government fuck everything up … re-invent the wheel … and shift the deckchairs around … I await the real outcomes next week … devil in the detail – as always with the government …

    And Labor is very quiet? Western Front quiet!

  158. TB Queensland permalink
    May 3, 2017 9:45 am

    Internet Speed: 36Mbps

  159. May 3, 2017 9:46 am

    “”There is one good thing about the “revamped” school funding … the Catholic schools are whinging””

    Wouldn’t be surprised if ScoMo, The Terminator and Talcum did that deliberately just to piss off Abbott.

  160. May 3, 2017 9:47 am

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  161. shaneinqld permalink
    May 3, 2017 10:07 am

    TB

    There apparently are many different agreements with Gonski because all of the states and many different schools were at all different levels of support when investigated under the Gonski proposal. Even I can understand that as a result there needed to be many different agreements and models.

    When you take $22,000,000,000 out of promised funding and put $19,000,000,000 of promised funding back, to call it better is simply amazing.

    They claim that the $22,000,000,000 from Julia Gillard was not fully funded, yet their $19,000,000,000 is fully funded. How on earth can anything be called fully funded when we have deficits in the many billions each and every year. If they are claiming something is fully funded then they are simply robbing Peter to pay Paul and usually Peter is the Poor and Paul is the Rich.

    Nothing is funded not even their own thieving rorts and allowances.

  162. shaneinqld permalink
    May 3, 2017 10:08 am

    Mark Latham. Now there is someone who has totally lost the plot IMO.

  163. Tom R permalink
    May 3, 2017 11:03 am

    devil in the detail

    Exactly. It will be similar to the treatment of the NBN. You can be sure, if malware and the libs have anything to do with, the poor will suffer, and the Spivs will grow richer

  164. TB Queensland permalink
    May 3, 2017 11:05 am

    Mark Latham. Now there is someone who has totally lost the plot IMO.

    Absofknlutely!

    I see Tim Dunlop hasn’t tho’! 🙂

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Wouldn’t be surprised if ScoMo, The Terminator and Talcum did that deliberately just to piss off Abbott.

    SlowMo = Pentacost

    The Terminator = Mick

    TurnAbbott = Mick (ex- Presbyterian)

    Had to check again … 🙂

  165. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 3, 2017 2:56 pm

    How on earth can anything be called fully funded when we have deficits in the many billions each and every year.

    I heard on the radio that Gonski is for 6 years. The budget does forward estimates for 4 years meaning there is no funding for the last 2 years when the bulk of the money will be spent

    Both sides of politics seem to say a policy is funded even if they are running $50B deficits if the money is in the 4 year forward estimates.

  166. May 3, 2017 3:04 pm

    Shane, l`ve been saying the dumbfcuks are strangling the economy and productivity to death from the `bottom` for ages now.

    lt is not just `stagnation` either. lt is a combination of the junkism of jobs that `if` it was full-time would probably be a livable-wage; `and` shit-low paid jobs.

    The problem is team-dumbfcuk think they can just crush the shit out of the workforce wages and there will be no effect on productivity or consumption; both of which generates profits and taxes. Not investment.

  167. May 3, 2017 4:25 pm

    Note:

    The incredibly well paid staff (as TB will attest) at The Gutter Trash will not be joining Fairfax employees in a 7-day strike however we stand in solidarity with their predicament.

  168. May 3, 2017 4:49 pm

    Yes we do! Tho the public will suffer a shortage of FakeNews; we do hope they don`t resort to making-up shit themselves. That`s the ipa`s job.

  169. TB Queensland permalink
    May 3, 2017 5:57 pm

    The incredibly well paid staff (as TB will attest) at The Gutter Trash …

    Typical management BS! I’m still waiting for payment for a Special Report from the helicopter pad at Tangalooma on Moreton Island … stringers never forget, sreb!

    Anyway I can’t go on strike I’m retired … I will however, sit down in solidarity with my UNDERPAID colleagues @ Fairfax …

    (I can’t believe you would open up a healed wound like that!)

  170. TB Queensland permalink
    May 3, 2017 5:57 pm

    Speaking of wounds … we watched “Kajaki” also known as “Kilo Two Bravo” last night … true story … Afghanistan … UK 3 Para Regiment … hit by land mines … and really, really well made …

    The only downside is the bloody dialects and accents (particularly the fkn Scots!) but the images carry the film … beware tho’ – the makeup is some of the most authentic I’ve seen … (and as a H&S professional I’ve seen the real thing – just not on a battlefield)

    Soldiers through generation talk about their biggest fear being wounded … death is not if its swift!

  171. Tom R permalink
    May 4, 2017 8:54 am

    will not be joining Fairfax employees in a 7-day strike

    SPLITTER!!

    And yes, I do get the irony of a group of people who spent the last several years smearing and despoiling the Union movement at every step going on Strike

    Solidarity Brothers (and or sisters)

    (Is that too much Python in one post? CAN there be too much Python in one post?)

  172. shaneinqld permalink
    May 4, 2017 9:31 am

    Never too much python in 1 post 🙂

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