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Weekend Gab Fest!

October 1, 2021

Hello and good morning!

I was going to say the usual ‘here is an open thread post where you can talk about whatever you like’ but you do that anyway so I suppose I don’t need to bother.

Have a lovely weekend.

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  1. October 1, 2021 1:36 am

    By the way, I know one of these fuckers that went to the GF and he’s an arrogant, entitled stuck up fucker, so the fact that he’s currently holed up in some WA hellhole has me all cut up.

    Apparently, the minimum jail sentence in WA is six months (they don’t bother sending anyone to prison for less than that).


    You used to bring me roses, I wish you would again.
    But that was on the outside, and things were different then.

  2. Tony permalink
    October 1, 2021 2:20 am

    Okay then, let’s talk about how, just nine weeks ago, Daniel Andrews smugly boasted how Sydney should be doing “everything we did”.

  3. ivi permalink
    October 1, 2021 2:49 am

    (“White rabbit“; in case anyone is feeling a little bit pinchy-punchy, again.)

  4. Tony permalink
    October 1, 2021 7:30 am

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10031351/Dan-Andrews-add-world-record-BLAME-shifting-list-titles.html

  5. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 1, 2021 8:23 am

    Yes. Who could disagree that Dan is the champion
    * It’s medical advice, no I mean police advice, no I mean I made it up myself
    * You can die from golf
    * Stay the course
    * A one week lockdown
    * We’ve got this
    * Blah, blah, blah Sydney, blah, Sydney, blah
    * It is wicked
    * Look over there!!

  6. Tony permalink
    October 1, 2021 8:24 am

    Sounds sensible, so sure to drive greenies out of their trees.

    A planned new generation of mini nuclear reactors could protect Britain from future energy crises.

    Business Secretary Kwasi Kwarteng is poised to approve funding for British engineering giant Rolls-Royce to create a fleet of mini-reactors.

    Ministers are understood to have adopted a ‘change of focus’ towards nuclear power amid the current crisis caused by rocketing global wholesale gas prices.

    https://www.msn.com/en-au/money/other/government-poised-to-approve-16-mini-nuclear-reactors-to-hit-net-zero/ar-AAOPx1d/

  7. October 1, 2021 8:30 am

    Has anyone been watching Squid Game…?

  8. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 1, 2021 8:47 am

    I haven’t watched that, but I used to live Clive James’ television reviews of game shows!

  9. October 1, 2021 12:22 pm

    It’s great…! You should give it a go.

  10. October 1, 2021 12:24 pm

    Oh dear, things aren’t looking to good for “our Gladys” … 😆 😆 😆

    https://www.icac.nsw.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases/2021-media-releases/further-operation-keppel-public-inquiry

  11. Tony permalink
    October 1, 2021 12:32 pm

    Big overreach by Andrews. He’s just mandated(!) the vaccine for all authorised workers i.e. everyone who is working not from home. Up until now there have been creeping mandates in the health industry, then the construction industry – against which there was substantial pushback. These orders cover everyone including police.

    If any of these refuse to be vaccinated they will not be allowed to work (he doesn’t say who is supposed to enforce these orders). I sense a huge backlash.

  12. October 1, 2021 12:35 pm

    ahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahhahahaaaa!!

    So the word on the street is that Gladys is going to resign at 1pm!

    But, but, but, I thought she was just the poor victim who fell in love with the wrong man….

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  13. October 1, 2021 12:47 pm

    but, but, but Dan Andrews…….!!

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  14. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 1, 2021 12:52 pm

    Gerbiliklian has a sense of shame and will resign (as she should).

    Stairman Dan just appointed corrupt mongrel Coate to whitewash him.

  15. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 1, 2021 12:57 pm

    I reckon this is just Photias trying to install his compliant butt boy Keane in the top job. A bit like He Who Must Be Obeid installing his girl Kneely.

  16. Tony permalink
    October 1, 2021 12:58 pm

    but, but, but Dan Andrews

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    I couldn’t give a fuck about Gladys (I’ve hardly ever mentioned her, if at all). If she’s found guilty of something she should face the consequences. But you’re the one obsessed by her (for example the previous three threads were devoted to her). I’m an unashamed Andrews critic and I’ll leave Berejiklian to you.

  17. Tom R permalink
    October 1, 2021 1:02 pm

    but, but, but Dan Andrews

.!!
    The mob here sure have their finger on the pulse (of what, and whose it is, I don’t really wanna know)

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  18. Tom R permalink
    October 1, 2021 1:23 pm

    Not the only ones with their fingers on the pulse

  19. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 1, 2021 1:27 pm

    Do you think Dan might see dozens of charges against his government as a reason to”consider his future”?

  20. October 1, 2021 2:08 pm

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  21. October 1, 2021 2:10 pm

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  22. Tom R permalink
    October 1, 2021 2:24 pm

    Do you think Dan might see dozens of charges against his government as a reason to”consider his future”?

    Didn’t the health minister resign?

  23. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 1, 2021 3:03 pm

    * Mikakos blamed Dan
    * Dan “doesn’t remember”
    * “I accept full responsibility”- Dan

  24. Tom R permalink
    October 1, 2021 3:04 pm

    Is that you attempting to say “yes” yomm?

  25. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 1, 2021 3:38 pm

    To be fair, Greiner was unjustly accused by ICAC and later acquitted.

    Stairman Dan had the luxury of mongrel Coate covering for him, and not having a shred of decency about him, will not take responsibility for his murderous maladministration.

  26. Tom R permalink
    October 1, 2021 3:46 pm

    will not take responsibility for his murderous maladministration.

    Wasn’t there someone who banned people from appearing at an inquiry into the Ruby Princess?

  27. October 1, 2021 4:23 pm

    “Wasn’t there someone who banned people from appearing at an inquiry into the Ruby Princess?”

    But, but, but Dan Andrews

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  28. TB Queensland permalink
    October 1, 2021 6:16 pm

    Fuck you, reb!

    I’ve got no more fucking smiley time left! Sheesh!

  29. TB Queensland permalink
    October 1, 2021 6:17 pm

    Wonder what its like to feel so tarnished?

  30. TB Queensland permalink
    October 1, 2021 6:20 pm

    This’ll piss off a lot of Victorians … what else have they ot to do!!!

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/oct/01/australian-vaping-law-changes-e-cigarette-users-now-need-a-doctors-prescription

    Fucking Snotyy! Where’s the Federal ICAC !!!!!

  31. TB Queensland permalink
    October 1, 2021 6:21 pm

    opps Snotty … actually I like Snotyy sounds Russian … very da diktat …

  32. TB Queensland permalink
    October 1, 2021 6:22 pm

    LOL! oops … ‘scuse editing tires me … LOL! 😎

  33. TB Queensland permalink
    October 1, 2021 7:06 pm

    Economic Managers! My Arse! These dicks couldn’t keep a horse trough functional… as for finding a smell in fart factory … but find dog piss on it!

    Australia has dismissed the European Union’s move to delay trade talks following the government’s decision to tear up a French submarine deal.

    The way Australia handled the cancellation in favour of nuclear-powered technology under the AUKUS pact has angered European leaders.

    Finance Minister Simon Birmingham played down the EU’s move to push back negotiations for a free trade agreement with Australia by a month.

    This is the most incompetent Australian government I have ever suffered under …

    What do they thing EU stands for? FFS!

  34. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 2, 2021 7:43 am

    “will not take responsibility for his murderous maladministration.

    But, but, but …… Ruby Princess

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  35. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 2, 2021 7:56 am

    Lying frog:

    “Everything I have told you is confirmed by the letter I received on 15 September from the Australian ministry of defence that said everything is OK let’s continue,” Mr Le Drian told a parliamentary hearing in France. “Someone lied.”

    Actual letter:

    The matters addressed in this correspondence do not provide any authorisation to continue work or for the reimbursement of that work under (the) Core Work Scope 1 (contract),’

    Yet treasonous sumbags, driven by their utter hatred of Scummo, are prepared to sell out their country and side with the lying Frogs.

    Scummo has done plenty of bad things. But those fuckwits among us who, every fucking time no matter the rights or wrongs of the situation, reflexively bash our government and sympathise with regimes who would do us harm demonstrate only their own gutless stupidity and lack of principle.

  36. TB Queensland permalink
    October 2, 2021 8:39 am

    Someone hasn’t had their coffee yet …

  37. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 2, 2021 8:43 am

    “‘scuse editing tires me “

    You should have an espresso shot yourself, old cock!

  38. Tony permalink
    October 2, 2021 9:06 am

    1488 new cases in Vic today. It’s all going to shit. Thanks Dan!

  39. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 2, 2021 9:19 am

    This is the most incompetent Australian government I have ever suffered under

    TB you are too predictable. You say that about every Coalition govt

  40. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 2, 2021 9:42 am

    What a dumb leftist cunt sounds like:

    Premier Daniel Andrews has taken a dig at NSW over its handling of the current Covid-19 outbreak, saying his government’s “ring of steel” around Melbourne during the second wave last year “protected the whole country”.

    Announcing the state’s lockdown would be extended for another seven days on Tuesday, Mr Andrews also pointed out that he acted quickly to avoid the situation in Sydney.

    ”Avoiding a NSW-style long, lengthy, very challenging lockdown where we lose control of cases, we have avoided that,” he said.

    Just a week ago, the Premier was arrogantly verballing New South Wales Premier Gladys Berejiklian over the Sydney outbreak, saying, ‘A ring of steel will work, it will, and that’s why I called for it’.

    Yet Daniel Andrews pig-headedly refuses to take his own advice and follow through with a proportionate, localised response here in Victoria.

  41. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 2, 2021 9:45 am

    * a one week lockdown, to make sure we don’t become like Sydney
    * the longest lockdown in the world
    * you can die from golf
    Thanks Dan

  42. Tom R permalink
    October 2, 2021 3:50 pm

    The matters addressed in this correspondence do not provide any authorisation to continue work or for the reimbursement of that work under (the) Core Work Scope 1 (contract)

    You missed a bit from the letter, the Guardian has it (I can read that one)

    other than in accordance with References A, B and C.”
    Reference B means the submarine design contract, but references A and C were blacked out by the FOI decision maker, apparently to protect “trade secrets or commercially valuable information”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/oct/02/australia-told-french-submarine-firm-it-didnt-have-green-light-to-proceed-hours-before-deal-cancelled

    So, sounds like business as usual really.

    It will be interesting how much those (allegedly) “lying frogs”? decide to sue the average taxpayer for?

    Independent Senator Rex Patrick, a submariner and defence industry expert, said the French Government’s Naval Group had been many months behind schedule and had repeatedly missed key contractual milestones.

    That meant Australia had been fully entitled to exit the contract “on the basis of non-performance”, and so minimising costs to taxpayers.

    Instead, Morrison’s explosive September 16 move, which blindsided France, means Australia has exercised a “termination for convenience” clause – in a move which is expected to cost Australia hundreds of millions of dollars more in additional fees, charges and penalties.

    https://www.theklaxon.com.au/home/pms-naive-sub-deal-bungling-to-cost-dearly

    Oh, and EX New South Wales Premier Gladys Berejiklian (fixed it fer ya)

  43. Tom R permalink
    October 2, 2021 3:56 pm

  44. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 2, 2021 4:15 pm

    TomR

    Like i said before you could blame the sub disaster on Rudd/ALP

    Rudds White Paper said we needed 12 subs. But that was it. What colour?? Blue, pink or purple??

    Rudd did not place an order but left it to the next govt. OK Turnbull got it wrong but at least he tried and failed unlike Rudd

  45. Tom R permalink
    October 2, 2021 4:42 pm

    The plan was to build a fleet of improved Collins class submarines. abbott blew that out the water, and with it, a decade of progress that we could have made.

    https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6141687/the-end-of-kevin-rudds-defence-dream/

  46. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 2, 2021 4:55 pm

    ‘So, sounds like business as usual really.”

    Guardian headline from your link: Australia told French submarine firm it didn’t have green light to proceed hours before deal cancelled

    Sounds like the lying frog was indeed lying.

    And the price of exit will be well worth it and way less than Dogfucker Dan saddled the people of Victoria with when broke the contract for the East West link.

  47. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 2, 2021 4:59 pm

    TomR

    I read your link. It did not say that Rudd planned to build improved Collins Class subs. It seems to say the Japs did not want to sell us their diesel technology

    R U trying to deceive people again???

  48. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 2, 2021 5:21 pm

    “””Guardian headline””

    i have been banned from posting at the Guardian

    That says a lot. Guardian cannot stand people with a different opinion

  49. TB Queensland permalink
    October 2, 2021 5:58 pm

    TB you are too predictable. You say that about every Coalition govt

    Or not … I haven’t been happy with a few ALP spivs either …

  50. Tom R permalink
    October 2, 2021 6:39 pm

    didn’t have green light to proceed

    Well, “other than in accordance with References A, B and C.” they never have, have they?

    What also seems to be missing is a statement declaring “we are cancelling this deal”

  51. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 2, 2021 6:43 pm

    TomR

    Why didn’t Rudd/ALP order some subs??

  52. TB Queensland permalink
    October 2, 2021 6:49 pm

    And the price of exit will be well worth it and way less than Dogfucker Dan saddled the people of Victoria with when broke the contract for the East West link.

    And the F35’s have are a wonderful replacement for the F111 …. **

  53. October 2, 2021 9:43 pm

    Please support The Gutter Trash by buying our new range of merchandise …

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  54. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 3, 2021 8:39 am

    “And the F35’s have are a wonderful replacement for the F111 
. **”

    Stop it, stop it, TB. The wet lettuce you’re tickling me with is as limp as your shriveled old schlong!

  55. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 3, 2021 8:55 am

    Melbourne used to be the most livable city in the world.
    As of today it’s the most locked down city in the world, and not even Australia’s most livable. Doesn’t come second either.
    Thanks Dan

  56. ivi permalink
    October 3, 2021 1:45 pm

    (Thanks Dan

    Indeed; (t)here you are.)

  57. TB Queensland permalink
    October 3, 2021 7:39 pm

    Splatterbottom permalink
    October 3, 2021 8:39 am

    Only dicks are interested in other people’s … dicks …

    For the record … your attempts at sexual insults … are childish … aw fuck …. aha aha … you’re older than me you old cunt! LOL!

  58. TB Queensland permalink
    October 3, 2021 7:46 pm

    Melbourne used to be the most livable city in the world.

    It did …?

    BTW you can take yer weather back too cold fkn winds, then, sunny, then rain, then storms, then hot, then cold fkn winds, then, sunny, then rain, then storms, then hot, then …

    No wonder all the Vic number plates in QLD! … these pricks think they’ve come to paradise — we have beaches and modern housing and a government that delivers … wide open spaces and room to grow …

    Come join us … aw fuck! You have to get thru NSW or SA or WA or NT … bugger

  59. Tony permalink
    October 4, 2021 7:05 am

    A tale of two cities.

    This:

    vs. this: (How good’s The ‘Bool?)

  60. Tony permalink
    October 4, 2021 8:58 am

    Visiting the Palace of Versailles a few years ago I was shocked to see armed soldiers patrolling the grounds. This reminds me of that:

  61. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 4, 2021 9:00 am

    “Only dicks are interested in other people’s 
 dicks 
”

    Oh dear, TB. You sound like a typical 60s era poofter-basher.

    Open your mind. Live a little. Go to a Mapplethorpe exhibition. Or check out the Tom of Finland movie. You’ll get a taste for it soon enough!

  62. Tony permalink
    October 4, 2021 9:03 am

    1377 new cases in Vic today. Thanks Dan!

  63. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 4, 2021 11:08 am

    1377 cases today, and the world’s longest lockdown!
    “We’ve got this”

  64. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 4, 2021 11:57 am

  65. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 4, 2021 1:38 pm

    Disgraceful. The Victorian police are out of control.
    There is no proportional response, just dumb bullies that want to beat people

  66. Tony permalink
    October 4, 2021 2:34 pm

    Don’t forget a fish rots from the head. Andrews is giving police command the “rules” to enforce, and chief commissioner Shane Patton is relishing it. That’s not to say these coppers aren’t loving it too. Not sure the last time there was an actual riot, but the riot squad must be loving the chance to wear their shields and helmets and beat up a few plebs.

  67. Tom R permalink
    October 4, 2021 4:17 pm

    Don’t forget a fish rots from the head.

    I really thought that would be about nsw lol, but no, somehow, with the nsw government crumbing before us, it’s all DAN!!

    Glorious 🙂

  68. Tony permalink
    October 4, 2021 5:03 pm

    But, but, but Gladys. But, but, but Barilaro. But, but, but NSW.

    I couldn’t give a fuck about NSW. I’m living in a hellscape called Victoria under a cunt called Andrews and a brutal police regime. That’s what I’m (extremely) worried about.

  69. October 4, 2021 5:13 pm

    Truth bomb…

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  70. Tom R permalink
    October 4, 2021 6:38 pm

    I’m living in a hellscape called Victoria

  71. Tom R permalink
    October 4, 2021 7:14 pm

  72. October 4, 2021 7:24 pm

    Yeah, but what if Covid’s all a big hoax and we saved all those lives for nothing…..???!!!!

  73. Tom R permalink
    October 4, 2021 7:28 pm

    What do ya mean, What If?

  74. TB Queensland permalink
    October 4, 2021 7:31 pm

    QLD! had ONE new case today and no protests, plenty of masks, logging in to shops and other places … see a pattern here?

  75. TB Queensland permalink
    October 4, 2021 7:39 pm

    … but what if Covid’s all a big hoax …

    Maybe Golden Girl Gladys found out?

    So, does this mean that QLD! is nopw the Gold standard … or does that only come with Slolo’s recommendation …

    Surely its a no-brainer? Ahhh … don’t tell me its political?

    Speaking of political has anyone seen the new Feds advert for renewables (election time!) apparently 1 in 4 households have are powered by solar energy!

    Well thanks Slothy … great Marketing (not) … so … Where The Bloody Hell Were You?

  76. TB Queensland permalink
    October 4, 2021 7:43 pm

    I know this is cherry picking (pun definitely intended!)

    But really …

    I’m living ………….. under a cunt đŸ˜±

  77. TB Queensland permalink
    October 4, 2021 7:46 pm

    Open your mind. Live a little.

    You certainly have it bad …

    Build a fucking bridge …

  78. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 5, 2021 8:46 am

    1763 cases today! This one week lockdown “so that we don’t finish up like Sydney” is going well!
    And here’s an exclusive summary of the government’s defence to the 58 charges over the hotel quarantine debacle…
    * We were in a hurry
    * I don’t remember
    * Scotty said it would be ok
    * We had to complete the diversity training
    * Look over there!
    Thanks Dan

  79. Tony permalink
    October 5, 2021 10:04 am

    1763 cases today!

    But, but, but look over there at NSW!

  80. Tom R permalink
    October 5, 2021 10:57 am

    the government’s defence to the 58 charges over the hotel quarantine debacle


    You remember the bit when the Federal Government (the ones ultimately responsible for Quarantine) came to the meeting without a plan at all, and the States cobbled this ‘temporary’ solution together, without any help from the feds?

    And do you remember the assembled throng spending the better part of a year lambasting ‘private security guards’, and missing the real story altogether?

    But, but, but look over there at NSW!

    The corruption capital? Yea, why worry about that 😉

  81. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 5, 2021 11:00 am

    I’ll take bet ss with anyone who thinks the government will plead not guilty.
    They know they’re guilty.
    Has Worksafe yet charged the federal government?

  82. October 5, 2021 11:16 am

    1700 new cases today.

    Thanks Gladys!

  83. Tom R permalink
    October 5, 2021 11:17 am

    The only trouble with ditching a corrupt liberal member is, maybe their replacement is worst

  84. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 5, 2021 11:34 am

    Thanks Gladys!
    Maybe if, instead of lecturing NSW about a ring of steel around Sydney, Dan had put it along the border?

  85. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 5, 2021 12:35 pm

    “Build a fucking bridge 
”

    So you think that type of bridge might assist with your particular problem?

  86. Tony permalink
    October 5, 2021 1:05 pm

    1763 is the Australian record for the number of new daily cases. Thanks Dan!

  87. Tony permalink
    October 5, 2021 1:10 pm

    Melbourne just became the most locked down city in the world while having Australia’s highest number of Covid deaths. Don’t know how he managed that, but great work Dan!

  88. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 5, 2021 1:43 pm

    “Thanks Gladys!”

    But don’t worry, “Zero cases” Dan has got this!

  89. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 5, 2021 1:46 pm

    This is how Dan managed it!
    * Endless sanctimonious speeches
    * You can die from golf
    * A one week lockdown
    * It’s based on medical advice…no, I mean police advice…no I mean I made it up
    * Sydney MUST HAVE A RING OF STEEL!
    * But leave a porous border in place
    * Arrest the pregnant woman in her pajamas
    * Turn the world’s most livable city into the centre of misery
    Thanks Dan

  90. Tony permalink
    October 5, 2021 2:28 pm

    Have a close look at this graph. It proves Victoria’s problem is not yhe vaccination rate or lack of vaccine supply. The problem is gross mismanagement by Daniel Andrews.

  91. Tom R permalink
    October 5, 2021 2:40 pm

    Thanks Dan

    True Dat

  92. Tony permalink
    October 5, 2021 2:51 pm

    Yeah, don’t compare Victoria to NSW because that would be comparing like with like. You know, situated on the same island nation with closed borders, similar climate, similar population demographic and socioeconomic background, high quality health system etc etc

    No, pick a handful of third world basket cases that just happen to have similar population numbers.🙄

  93. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 5, 2021 3:00 pm

    “pick a handful of third world basket cases”

    Hard to tell who is more stupid – Jimmy Raynes or the troll who reposted him. Actually, it’s Jimmy. He probably believes he is making a logical argument. That is not really a consideration for Tom R.

  94. ivi permalink
    October 5, 2021 4:07 pm

    (Interesting times, eh?)

  95. Tony permalink
    October 5, 2021 4:48 pm

    This didn’t age well:

    ‘Go hard, go early’ approach to COVID-19 the right move
    5 JUNE 2021

    A new study published today highlights the importance of a ‘go hard, go early,’ strategy when it comes to responding to growing outbreaks of COVID-19 in Australia.

    According to the lead author, Professor Tom Kompas at the University of Melbourne, Victoria’s current snap lockdown is the correct approach.

    “Our work shows that what Victoria is currently doing, with its ‘circuit-breaker‘ lockdown is exactly the right thing to do,” Professor Kompas said 


    https://www.anu.edu.au/news/all-news/go-hard-go-early-approach-to-covid-19-the-right-move

  96. October 5, 2021 6:37 pm

    This didn’t age well either:

    Gladys: “There are green shoots”.

  97. Tony permalink
    October 5, 2021 7:13 pm

    NSW is opening up next week, so 


  98. Tony permalink
    October 5, 2021 7:28 pm

  99. Tony permalink
    October 5, 2021 7:30 pm

    The law of unintended consequences:

  100. Tom R permalink
    October 5, 2021 10:00 pm

  101. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 6, 2021 8:22 am

    Does anyone think the Andrews government will plead not guilty to the 58 charges over the hotel quarantine debacle?
    It will plead guilty, and admit incompetence.
    That’s the standard the ALP cheer club is endorsing

  102. Tom R permalink
    October 6, 2021 8:41 am

    That’s the standard the ALP cheer club is endorsing

    Seems to me they are addressing it. Nothing runs perfectly, especially when you have someone elses responsibility dumped on you.

    But, I don’t remember anyone being banned from speaking there, it was an open inquiry, that discovered issues. Issues that were likely replicated across the country.

    Perhaps they should be more like others?

  103. Tony permalink
    October 6, 2021 8:51 am

  104. Tony permalink
    October 6, 2021 10:08 am

    Another 1420 cases today. Thanks Dan.

  105. Tom R permalink
    October 6, 2021 10:48 am

    lol tosy

    The age reports “there is nothing to see here, but we wish there was”

    The abc picks up the droppings and feasts (as do all the little sycophants)

  106. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 6, 2021 11:34 am

    1420, that’s a great effort! And today we set another world record for the longest lockdown
    Luckily we had the snap one week lockdown, so that we didn’t become like Sydney

  107. Tom R permalink
    October 6, 2021 12:08 pm

    Luckily we had the snap one week lockdown, so that we didn’t become like …. other countries 😉


    ‘Incompetent’: Frydenberg attacked over jobkeeper after profit warnings from ATO revealed

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/oct/05/incompetent-frydenberg-attacked-over-jobkeeper-after-profit-warnings-from-ato-revealed

  108. Tom R permalink
    October 6, 2021 12:35 pm

  109. Tony permalink
    October 6, 2021 12:52 pm

  110. ivi permalink
    October 6, 2021 1:13 pm

    (….That’s the standard the ALP cheer club is endorsing….

    This hyper-non-partisan might like a wide-ranging and probing Royal Commission, with multiple commissioners, to capture a variety of perspectives, into the whole lot of the pandemic response(s) – quarantine, health, vax procurements and rollouts, lockdowns, economic (un)supports, socio-economic impacts, official public health communications, (un)official) (nutjob mis)information communications, etcetera; simply as a lesson-learning exercise, because we know there’s more to come with this pandemic, and, also, that there will be more, and probably even more challenging, pandemics; and because noone necessarily has delivered anything like a ‘gold standard’ performance, for whatever (a)political) reason(s).)

  111. Tony permalink
    October 6, 2021 1:35 pm

    noone necessarily has delivered anything like a ‘gold standard’ performance

    Fair comment.

  112. Tom R permalink
    October 6, 2021 2:08 pm

    Fair comment.

    Yea, reb, what about some modulation here mate, we don’t want that sort of shit creeping in! 😉

    re Magpie, don’t mind if I do 🙂

  113. Tom R permalink
    October 6, 2021 5:00 pm

    The Thickens Plot

  114. Tony permalink
    October 6, 2021 5:21 pm

    Wait a minute, I thought they were all rent-a-crowd, nazis and right wing nutjobs. I suppose that narrative served its purpose at the time and the usual drips lapped it up like kittens at a saucer of milk.

  115. Tony permalink
    October 6, 2021 5:27 pm

    Yeah, the world has turned away from fossil fuels.

    Energy stocks have zoomed ahead of all other sectors in the past month, shaking off a decline for the broader market as a spike in demand from Europe and China sends prices of oil, gas and coal soaring 
 The burst in interest comes as red-hot demand for energy commodities in China and across Europe has depleted gas stores, sending prices skyrocketing, and increasing demand for other energy sources like oil and coal.

    https://www.afr.com/markets/equity-markets/investors-rush-to-energy-stocks-to-catch-boom-20211006-p58xl5

  116. Tom R permalink
    October 6, 2021 6:34 pm

    A dozen, lol

  117. Tony permalink
    October 6, 2021 6:52 pm

    He’s expelling the violent ones. Get your head out of Dan’s arse.

  118. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 6, 2021 8:00 pm

    Setka says- we won’t have people who engage in ad hoc unlawful demonstrations and riots. That’s the job of the CFMEU

  119. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 6, 2021 8:37 pm

    Just out of interest, does anyone think the police response to the protests in Melbourne was “proportionate”?

  120. Tony permalink
    October 6, 2021 9:41 pm

    No, only Dan-bots.

  121. Tom R permalink
    October 6, 2021 10:04 pm

    to “expel” members who were involved.

    That’s from yor twit bot 😉

    does anyone think the police response to the protests in Melbourne was “proportionate”

    The only time they ever have been is when it was the nazis a few years back

  122. Tony permalink
    October 7, 2021 8:46 am

    1638 new cases for Vic. Great work Dan!

  123. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 7, 2021 9:37 am

    I’m just glad we didn’t become like Sydney!

  124. ivi permalink
    October 7, 2021 11:08 am

    (….Just out of interest, does anyone think….

    Apparently not, if and/or when it comes to a(n un)stoppable force encountering a(n in)surmountable object(ion); or, how does a ragtag bunch of very-principled, very-ODD, very-motivated persons, deliberately breaching multiple public health orders, en (critical) masse, amidst a well-known deadly pandemic, characteristically differ from a(n un)coordinated suicide(s)-bomber(s)/ing(s), in terms of the effective implications for ‘protesters’, ‘police’, and (Victorian) society at-large?

    ————

    Also, if Dictator Dan was very bad for failing to institute and maintain safe workplaces, why is Dictator Dan also bad for sort-of seeking to institute safe(r) workplaces whilst simultaneously being, um, good for openly plotting effectively to harm and to kill a bunch of random people, whether at home or in the workplace: all very odd.)

  125. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 7, 2021 11:14 am

    What’s “very odd” is incoherent verbosity that apparently supports violent heavy handed policing.

  126. Tony permalink
    October 7, 2021 11:56 am

    ABC cuts off Andrews press conference when journalists ask uncomfortable questions about IBAC inquiry. Which all could be just a coincidence. Except, they cut straight back when questions return to Covid matters. #fucktheabc #protectionracket

  127. Tony permalink
    October 7, 2021 12:05 pm

  128. Tom R permalink
    October 7, 2021 12:36 pm

    ABC cuts off Andrews press conference when journalists ask for the umpteenth timeuncomfortable questions about IBAC inquiry.

    I mean, when he has answered … REPEATEDLY, that he cannot answer these questions, it just gets repetitive.

    Questions with no basis in anything it must be reminded.

    So, a lib premier gets investigated by ICAC for actual (alleged) corruption, and resigns (doesn’t step aside), and media try to shut ICAC down

    A Labor Premier DOESN’T get investigated by IBAC, and they want him to resign?

    This place is cooked.

  129. ivi permalink
    October 7, 2021 12:43 pm

    (Surely, in a healthy democracy, the demos is (fully) informed, possibly even by technically-relevant public servants, not wannabe-celebritards or deemed-unquestionably-democratic ‘select’ set-ups or drip-feeds from on-high?)

  130. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 7, 2021 12:43 pm

    “I mean, when he has answered 
 REPEATEDLY, that he cannot will not answer these questions, it just gets repetitive because he will always find a corrupt Coate-like mongrel to cover for him.

  131. Tom R permalink
    October 7, 2021 1:38 pm

    “he cannot will not”

    There is a reason words are chosen, so I repeat, HE CANNOT

    ://twitter.com/MSMWatchdog2013/status/1445604583967838225

  132. Tom R permalink
    October 7, 2021 1:59 pm

    How is this, not only does morrison lie to the voting public, his own members, the media, China and France, it is now revealed he also lied to the Americans. He really has done untold damage to our countries standing.

    Before agreeing to anything, the Biden administration sought assurances from Australia that its decision to abandon the French contract was a fait accompli and not dependent on U.S. actions, a senior State Department official told Axios.
    Even after Australia assured the U.S. that this was the case, Biden expressed concerns about moving forward due to the deal’s implications for nuclear nonproliferation — if Australia was permitted to obtain sensitive nuclear propulsion technology, who else could claim an exception?
    The Australians told the Americans in June that they had all but told France that they were pulling the plug, both in writing and in direct conversations between Macron and Australia Prime Minister Scott Morrison, according to two sources familiar with the assurances.

    https://www.axios.com/biden-make-amends-france-macron-8db93b4c-39a3-458b-8216-02dfd0a8f03f.html

  133. Tom R permalink
    October 7, 2021 2:33 pm

  134. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 7, 2021 3:32 pm

    Taking “full responsibility” Dan style…
    * World record lockdown
    * Jenny, please step under this bus
    * I don’t remember
    * You can die from golf
    Thanks Dan

  135. Tom R permalink
    October 7, 2021 3:35 pm

    but, but , Dan didn’t do anything. SO SACK HIM

  136. Tom R permalink
    October 7, 2021 3:45 pm

  137. Tony permalink
    October 7, 2021 3:52 pm

    Funny how Dan’s memory fails him at the most convenient (for him) times.

  138. Tony permalink
    October 7, 2021 3:56 pm

  139. Tom R permalink
    October 7, 2021 4:23 pm

    Tim smith aint too bright, but he does get muppets to follow along.

    Perhaps if I just repeat this a few more times, muppets might understand. And, let’s not forget, the story that booted this off specifically said he wasn’t under investigation

    How did this start ? oh yea

    but, muppets will be muppets

  140. Tom R permalink
    October 7, 2021 5:05 pm

    Just curious, but what is it that Dan isn’t under investigation for anyway?

  141. Tony permalink
    October 7, 2021 5:07 pm

    Yeah, it doesn’t matter who made the complaint (Mark Dreyfus has made multiple police complaints against the Feds. I didn’t hear you complaining then). The facts are there are multiple investigations into both Andrews and his ministers. Deal with it.

  142. Tony permalink
    October 7, 2021 5:16 pm

    Lol, for someone who thinks they know all about everything, you’re pretty clueless. Read this article as a primer:

  143. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 7, 2021 5:50 pm

    While private sector workers are losing money, government workers have lost none and are asking for more.

    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/vic-teachers-vote-for-industrial-action/ar-AAPdDVL?ocid=msedgntp

    Victorian government school teachers have voted in favour of taking industrial action to achieve a new pay deal.

  144. Tony permalink
    October 7, 2021 5:51 pm

    Awkward!

  145. Tom R permalink
    October 7, 2021 5:59 pm

    hmm

    But that radio interview may have even piqued IBAC’s interest.

    Even though the link above shows it was the libs who initiated the complaint. Doesn’t this ‘journalist’ know anything?

    Previously, Andrews had said he had not been spoken to by IBAC. But on Wednesday he said he was not in a position to “confirm or otherwise” if the anti-corruption watchdog had interviewed him or his office.
    It’s an awkward situation for the Premier, or anyone assisting IBAC, because it can be an offence to reveal if IBAC has spoken to you. For its part IBAC does not confirm investigations.

    So, everything is pure assumption, isn’t it?

    So, tosy, perhaps you can put on record for the slower ones, what is he or isn’t he under investigation for? A tape that is alleged by his political opponents? One that there is no evidence for, just repeated (every election it seems) accusations made?

    I wonder, does he have a kitchen renovation from 20 years ago they haven’t uncovered yet?

    I mean, it’s not like he’s a Premier who:

    ‱ had a secret relationship with one of her ministers;
    ‱ covered up and lied about it;
    ‱ awarded millions of dollars in grants for his business interests, while still involved with him;
    ‱ instructed her office to shred documents that may have provided evidence of her wrongdoing;
    ‱ when first questioned by ICAC (in 2020) about these dealings, repeated that she couldn’t recall details more than 150 times; and then
    ‱ freely decided to resign rather than simply stand aside (as other premiers have done) while the corruption allegations against her are investigated.

    is it?

    https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/friendlyjordies-and-the-nsw-governments-demise,15602#.YV5obpm4L91.twitter

  146. Tom R permalink
    October 7, 2021 6:03 pm

    Mark Dreyfus has made multiple police complaints against the Feds

    Perhaps you can provide an example of one he made that had no evidence to back it up, rather than just being an allegation about something that doesn’t seem to exist?

  147. Tony permalink
    October 7, 2021 6:13 pm

    When Andrews and his ministers are called before IBAC next week are you still going to have your hands over your ears yelling na na nana na?

    If past form is anything to go by I’m gonna say yes.

  148. Tom R permalink
    October 7, 2021 6:22 pm

    When Andrews and his ministers are called before IBAC next week

    They could well be. Appearing at IBAC doesn’t mean that they are investigating you, does it?

    Interesting that this is the third federal election that the UFU has been dragged out for. You’d think that at some point it’s got to lose its appeal?

  149. Tony permalink
    October 7, 2021 7:50 pm

    She’s also the one who mentioned Teh New World Order.

  150. Tony permalink
    October 7, 2021 8:02 pm

    Just finished watching Squid Game on Reb’s recommendation. I’m a 7/10.

  151. Tony permalink
    October 7, 2021 8:41 pm

    Rules are for the little people.

  152. Tony permalink
    October 7, 2021 9:24 pm

  153. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 7, 2021 9:25 pm

    I must admit i would not like to be in government right now. It would be a tough job. Lets hope both Labor and Coalition govts are doing their best

  154. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 8, 2021 8:42 am

    We love you Big Brother:

  155. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 8, 2021 8:48 am

    Sorry, ToSy. Just noticed your post of the Dear Leader.

  156. Tony permalink
    October 8, 2021 9:06 am

    New record for Vic today: 1,838 new cases! If we all try a bit harder we could break the 2,000 mark in the next few days. After that, who knows, is 3,000 a possibility?

    Well done Dan, you’ve outdone yourself again!

  157. Tony permalink
    October 8, 2021 9:09 am

    No worries Splats, his hypocrisy deserves repeating.

  158. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 8, 2021 10:14 am

    Trying to get around the closure of the rub and tug shops, I guess, reb.

  159. Tom R permalink
    October 8, 2021 10:56 am

    Advertised just when Gladys is looking for a new job too reb. Coincidence?

  160. Tony permalink
    October 8, 2021 11:09 am

    If police take no action on this, every single person who has been fined for failing to wear a mask should have their fines cancelled. It’s science!

  161. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 8, 2021 11:35 am

    “Advertised just when Gladys is looking for a new job”

    Compulsory masking should give her a chance at attracting custom.

  162. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 8, 2021 11:40 am

    Dan not wearing a mask while walking past journalists and cameramen must be the biggest display of arrogance or d*ckwittery I’ve seen for some time.
    I’m not sure which

  163. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 8, 2021 11:48 am

    Stairman Dan can’t feign ignorance of the rules or the seriousness of not wearing a mask, matters he has been lecturing the hoi polloi on for months.

    This is a serious and contemptuous breach of the law and should be punished by prison time. Any cops who failed to apprehend the perp should be dishonourably discharged.

  164. Tony permalink
    October 8, 2021 11:50 am

    Aged like fine milk in the sun.

  165. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 8, 2021 12:01 pm

    Turdside should stick to Jew bashing. At least he is good at that.

  166. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 8, 2021 12:06 pm

  167. Tony permalink
    October 8, 2021 12:11 pm

    rules, not suggestions or requests

    Burnside is past president of Liberty Victoria. But he seems interested only in the liberty of asylum seekers, not the proles of Victoria.

  168. Tony permalink
    October 8, 2021 12:22 pm

    Dan’s not appearing at this morning’s press conference. I’m shocked, shockedI tells ya!

  169. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 8, 2021 12:43 pm

    “I’m shocked, shocked I tells ya!”

    He’s probably “fallen” down the stairs again!

  170. Tom R permalink
    October 8, 2021 12:59 pm

    This will upset a few conspirators

  171. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 8, 2021 1:24 pm

    Pretty sure Dan will refer the matter to an inquiry headed by the Hon. Jennifer Coate AO and until she issues her report Dan will be unable to comment. After a year or so Coate will find that the mask fell off Dan’s face all by itself and nobody was at fault.

  172. Tom R permalink
    October 8, 2021 1:26 pm

  173. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 8, 2021 1:38 pm

    A fine isn’t good enough, a good dose of pepper spray is in order
    Maybe throw him headfirst into some concrete and handcuff him too
    Maybe then he’d understand that the CHO orders are serious!

  174. Tom R permalink
    October 8, 2021 1:43 pm

  175. Tony permalink
    October 8, 2021 1:58 pm

  176. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 8, 2021 1:58 pm

    Statement from Dan-
    I have spent the past 18 months telling people they were required to comply with the orders of the Chief Health Officer, but I had no idea the orders applied to me

  177. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 8, 2021 3:08 pm

    So Dan broke his own rules whereas Perrottet complied with the NSW rules and Tom R is in a protein-rich lather.

  178. Tom R permalink
    October 8, 2021 3:38 pm

    From the link splats

    Problem: Perrottet lives in Beecroft, 24km from where he was exercising. The public health order, in place until next Monday, still applies a restriction on exercise to your own local government area, or 5km from your home.

    But, as it’s clear Labor politician face a different kind of scrutiny than their lib counterparts, obviously nothing to see here 😉

  179. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 8, 2021 3:43 pm

    And anyway, Dan’s a very busy man and doesn’t have time to concentrate on things like the orders of the Chief Health Officer

  180. Tom R permalink
    October 8, 2021 3:47 pm

    At least he admits when he makes a mistake yomm 😉

  181. Tony permalink
    October 8, 2021 3:57 pm

    Daniel Andrews: Patton, it’s your master.

    Shane Patton: Jawohl Mein FĂŒhrer!

    DA: Listen, that cunt Dowsley taped me yesterday not wearing an obedience muzzle.

    SP: So you want me to arrest him for, say, public journalism?

    DA: No, not this time. There’s also a photo from Wednesday. The peasants are getting restless.

    SP: Riot squad?

    DA: No. What I want you to do is issue a couple of fines.

    SP: But FĂŒhrer 


    DA: It’s all right, I’ll get some mug Labor donor to pay them. If not, there’ll be thousands of unwashed jacking up about their fines. The jails just wouldn’t handle it at the moment.

    SP: Consider it done, Mein FĂŒhrer.

  182. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 8, 2021 4:04 pm

    He’s done it on successive days. That’s not a mistake, that’s a habit.
    Anyone who assiduously wears a mask realises after a few steps that they’re not wearing it.
    Even I go back to my car for a mask if I’ve forgotten it. But Dan walked half a block, past mask wearing journalists, cameramen and staffers. All were wearing masks.
    Even Dan can’t be so lacking in self awareness.
    It can only be arrogance

  183. Tom R permalink
    October 8, 2021 4:06 pm

    Thanks at least for showing me what “a protein-rich lather.” looks like yomm and tosy 😉

  184. Tom R permalink
    October 8, 2021 4:18 pm

    More lather fodder

    Oops, wrong guy

  185. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 8, 2021 4:39 pm

    “From the link splats”

    Yes, but what about the relevant bit – that he wasn’t in breach of the regulations. You knew that but you’re not interested in getting at the truth, are you?

    NSW Police said in a statement provided to Daily Mail Australia: ‘The NSW Police Force has independently reviewed the legal advice which was provided to the Premier and determined no breach of the Public Health Orders has taken place.’

  186. Tom R permalink
    October 8, 2021 4:45 pm

    the relevant bit………

    Any cops who failed to apprehend the perp should be dishonourably discharged.

  187. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 8, 2021 4:48 pm

    The perp is the Stairman that broke his own rules.

  188. Tom R permalink
    October 8, 2021 6:35 pm

    rules are rules splats, the perp in nsw broke the nsw rules splats. And his sycophantic mates let him off

    The perp in Vic admitted his mistake, and paid his fine. See the difference (probably not)

  189. October 8, 2021 7:19 pm

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  190. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2021 8:37 am

    1,965 new cases in Vic. Another Australian record but not quite 2,000. C’mon Vics, you can do it!

    How’s that 7-day ‘circuit breaker’ lockdown working out for you Dan?

  191. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 9, 2021 8:59 am

    Yes, luckily we had this one week lockdown so that we didn’t become like Sydney

  192. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 9, 2021 9:02 am

    “See the difference”

    Yes.

    Andrews broke his own rules.

    Perrottet did not break any rules.

    See the difference.
    (probably not)

    This was explained in the link I posted but you, lying cunt that you are, pretended not to know that.

    Occasionally I go to the city to work. When there, I am allowed (under the rules) to go for a walk at lunchtime which I usually do. I’m also allowed to shop, get a coffee and go to the dentist all of which I sometimes do.

  193. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2021 10:27 am

    As usual, the narrative promoted by the Democrats and the mainstream media served its purpose at the time, but when the truth eventually comes out its all too late.

  194. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2021 12:02 pm

  195. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2021 12:10 pm

    This is long, but definitely worth a watch. This acting senior sergeant in the Victorian Police is resigning, partly because VicPol is now just an enforcement arm of the government.

  196. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 9, 2021 12:19 pm

    The police aren’t bothering to enforce the regulations, unless they get to slam someone’s head into the concrete.

  197. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 9, 2021 3:45 pm

    Occasionally I go to the city to work. When there, I am allowed (under the rules) to go for a walk at lunchtime

    Two weeks ago i went to visit my elderly mother who lives by herself 300km north of Sydney. I went by Public Transport. I was accosted once and asked for ID and why i was travelling. The Police accepted my account that i was travelling for humanitarian reasons. My mother needed help.

    On the way back i saw Police everywhere but not once did they question me. Looks like they only care about people leaving Sydney not arriving

    There are some valid reasons for travelling under the rules

  198. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2021 3:47 pm

    This was explained in the link I posted

    You posted a link?

    The rules as they appear on the NSW government Covid site do not specify whether exercise or outdoor recreation can be taken 5km from a place of work.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10063617/Labor-narks-try-catch-new-NSW-Premier-Dom-Perrottet-jogging-outside-5km-home-radius.html

    I just found it funny that Dan Andrews owned up an admitted wrong doing, while some were getting themselves in a protein-rich lather about how the pigs would cover it up, and meanwhile, in the corruption capital, the pigs did exactly that.

    But, as I said, there is one rule for us, and one for them, and one for Labor. That’s what happens when the state runs the media (or the media runs the state, it’s hard to tell where that human centipede starts and stops)

  199. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2021 4:09 pm

    Nothing to see here

  200. TB Queensland permalink
    October 9, 2021 7:26 pm

    You’ll all be excited to know we just got our monthly power bill … $800+

    Just thought I’d change the fucking subject!

    And BTW the vitriol … is getting worse everyday.

    I might pop in next week … or not. Enjoy.

  201. TB Queensland permalink
    October 9, 2021 7:30 pm

    er not real clear – our bill is in our favour by $800 ie -$800 – the + was cause it’s a bit higher (Wally would be incensed at my accounting incompetence … 🐾 … ya know what walruses are like!)

  202. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 9, 2021 10:07 pm

    You’ll all be excited to know we just got our monthly power bill 
 $800+

    I have always believed that if it sounds too good to be true it most probably is.

    I have relatives who live off the grid who had to pay $25,000 to have a solar system installed

  203. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 10, 2021 7:02 am

    “You posted a link?”

    My mistake. I actually posted a quote:

    NSW Police said in a statement provided to Daily Mail Australia: ‘The NSW Police Force has independently reviewed the legal advice which was provided to the Premier and determined no breach of the Public Health Orders has taken place.’

    A clear conclusion which you seem unable to understand.

  204. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 10, 2021 7:12 am

    “This is long, but definitely worth a watch. This acting senior sergeant in the Victorian Police is resigning, partly because VicPol is now just an enforcement arm of the government.”

    Definitely worth the watch.

    Also, the jackboot is not nearly as effective at coercing obedience as it is in giving ReichsfĂŒhrer Andrews a hard-on:

    New data reveals mobility in Sydney dropped more than in Melbourne during most recent lockdowns

  205. Tony permalink
    October 10, 2021 9:16 am

    You don’t hear lefties criticising Big Pharma much at the moment.

  206. Tony permalink
    October 10, 2021 9:35 am

    Another 1,890 cases in Vic today. Sydney should have listened to Dan!

  207. October 10, 2021 11:24 am

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  208. October 10, 2021 11:25 am

    “Sydney should have listened to Dan!”

    Correct. But they didn’t. Which is why we’re in the current situation.

    Nice to see you finally catching up. 😉

  209. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 10, 2021 12:14 pm

    Yes! Dan told NSW to put a ring of steel around Sydney, but he forgot to put one along the border.
    But that’s hardly Dan’s fault, he had other things on his mind, like having a one week lockdown and responding to 58 charges over the hotel quarantine debacle

  210. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 10, 2021 12:55 pm

    ”Avoiding a NSW-style long, lengthy, very challenging lockdown where we lose control of cases, we have avoided that,”
    Dan Andrews – 20 July.

  211. TB Queensland permalink
    October 10, 2021 5:22 pm

    I have relatives who live off the grid who had to pay $25,000 to have a solar system installed

    Must be a massive system – or they’ve been ripped off (or transport may be the issue – who fkn knows) …

    You do know, that ON grid solar systems, generate power for use on the GRID and thus owners are paid for that energy?

    I just checked – we have generated: 21.5 Kw today on a 4.5Kw system (22 panels)

    Our average daily consumption is: 8.5Kw

    Therefor saleable power: 13Kw a day

    System is now at least seven years old and we have never paid a bill since it was installed.

    We amortised the cost over three years.

    It is not “too good to be true”. It simply is … true

    Based on the numbers above we should earn in the vicinity of $2500 – $2700 this year alone.

  212. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 10, 2021 5:58 pm

    Must be a massive system – or they’ve been ripped off (or transport may be the issue – who fkn knows) 


    He is off-grid so the system has to be big enough to supply all electricity needs. Washing machine, fridge, air conditioning etc. The batteries were a major part of the cost. He told me the total cost was $25,000. He does have a lot of batteries.

    Also i doubt you paid the full cost for your system even though it would be smaller than my relatives. The true cost of solar is buried by all the govt subsidies it receives. Plus the cost of disposal in not included in solar costs. Because solar cell recycling is so expensive apparently in Australia the used solar panels are just buried in the ground. Buried used solar panels create environmental problems

  213. Tom R permalink
    October 10, 2021 6:51 pm

    A clear conclusion which you seem unable to understand.

    Yes, the cops didn’t want to upset their masters 😉

    As I pointed out, I just found it funny that Dan Andrews owned up an admitted wrong doing, while some were getting themselves in a protein-rich lather about how the pigs would cover it up, and meanwhile, in the corruption capital, the pigs did exactly that.

    . An article out today has wound that back, stating now that the state government is the subject.

    yes, after their distraction, which so many muppets jumped on the chance at, did its job, which was …. to highlight how wrong they were the week before about a need for a corruption commission? I don’t know, it’s very confusing? Or is it that only Victoria can run a proper one (splats obviously disagrees) and nsw is horribly broken?

    Do muppets even know what hypocrisy is I wonder?

  214. Tom R permalink
    October 10, 2021 6:57 pm

    So happy she’s gone ….. ?

  215. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 10, 2021 8:17 pm

    “Yes, the cops didn’t want to upset their masters”

    And you know this how?

  216. Tom R permalink
    October 10, 2021 10:58 pm

    And you know this how?

    As I said, it’s interesting that the scenario the protein-rich latherers were hypothesizing about with Andrews turned out to be true, just for the wrong guy. 😆

    Since the articles linked to cannot find the ‘loophole’ the cops reckon they found, perhaps you can find it splats? Perhaps there is a law that states if you are outside, in Sydney, with Mars aligned with Pluto, AND, you are the new LIBERAL premier, then rules just don’t apply?

  217. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 11, 2021 8:17 am

    Tom R, Andrews broke his own rules. In the words of his own overwrought rhetoric he put himself above the safety of nurses.

    Perrottet checked his rules before going out and did not breach them.

    Apparently you are the supreme interpreter of NSW law and it must always be twisted to support the ALP narrative. As such you are like an elephant sucking its dick with its trunk, caught in an endless feedback loop – squirt, swallow digest repeat. Disconnected from the world outside, you are totally fixated on swallowing your own protein-rich propaganda and dribbling over these pages.

  218. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 11, 2021 8:26 am

    If only NSW had followed Dan’s advice, they too could remain in lockdown with 2000 cases a day

  219. Tom R permalink
    October 11, 2021 9:27 am

    Perrottet checked his rules before going out and did not breach them.

    Where does it say this. The articles I linked to, and quoted from, can not find the rule he used? The cops just said it looks cool to them. Perhaps you can point out the exemption he ‘checked’ for?

    It’s the hypocrisy I’m interested in.

  220. Tony permalink
    October 11, 2021 9:40 am

    1,612 new cases today.

  221. Tony permalink
    October 11, 2021 9:42 am

    Texas: Fuck Covid!

  222. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 11, 2021 10:08 am

    “Mr Perrottet said he checked with his legal department before the run

    Why are you so focused on there being a specific written exemption? There is no specific written exemption for going out for lunch or coffee or a walk or a run at lunchtime when working in the city. But in fact you can do all of these things under the rules. there is no rule saying that you cannot.

    In Dan’s Jackbootistan doing any of those things would get you bashed and maced by his mongrel SS pigs. In NSW there is more reasonable interpretation of the rules. Unlike Victoria the rules exist for public health reasons not for Stairman Dan’s tumescent pleasure as he watches his pigs beat up old ladies.

  223. Tom R permalink
    October 11, 2021 10:32 am

    There is no specific written exemption for going out for lunch or coffee or a walk or a run at lunchtime when working in the city.

    Yes, there is. there are exemptions against wearing a mask outside IF you are exercising within 5 km of your home.

    Sorry if I doubt the word of a politician, all we need to do is see the exemption. It can’t be that hard

  224. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 11, 2021 10:48 am

    Now you have gone full drongo troll Tom R.

    “Yes, there is.”

    No. There is not. If you think there are such written exemptions for the activities I mentioned, quote them. Quoting other exemptions is not to the point.

    there are exemptions against wearing a mask outside IF you are exercising within 5 km of your home.”

    How does this contradict what I said?

    Of course you will always doubt the word of a LNP politician and yet swallow the word of a Labor politician faster than you slurp your own semen. This speaks more to your gullibility than to your scepticism.

  225. Tom R permalink
    October 11, 2021 10:52 am

    You can go out for a walk at lunch, you cannot do it without a mask. You can, while eating or drinking, remove it. That exemption is clearly stated. Perhaps you can provide the one that the premier is using, because I’m not sure which one it is?

  226. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 11, 2021 11:00 am

    “You can go out for a walk at lunch … That exemption is clearly stated.”

    Where is this exemption that when I’m working more than 5k from home I can do this?

    You haven’t answered this question despite having two goes at it.

  227. Tom R permalink
    October 11, 2021 11:17 am

    Where is this exemption that when I’m working more than 5k from home I can do this?

    it was in the article I linked, and you quoted.

  228. Tom R permalink
    October 11, 2021 11:26 am

    You got yer lotion tosy?

  229. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 11, 2021 12:40 pm

    “it was in the article I linked, and you quoted.”

    So quote the specific exemption about going for a walk at lunchtime when working more than 5K from home! I can’t see it myself. One of us has gone blind from wanking too much and its not me!

  230. Tom R permalink
    October 11, 2021 1:03 pm

    So quote the specific exemption about going for a walk at lunchtime when working more than 5K from home

    I’m really not sure what you are on about here splats? No one said you can’t go for a walk? The issue is, he was doing it not wearing a mask. At the time, there was a mandate to wear masks everywhere outdoors, unless you are exercising within 5km of your home. He claims there must be another exemption. I’d just like to see it. I am asking to see an exemption, why are you asking me to provide one?

  231. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 11, 2021 1:12 pm

    Tom R:

    I said:

    There is no specific written exemption for going out for lunch or coffee or a walk or a run at lunchtime when working in the city.

    You said:

    Yes, there is.

    But there isn’t, is there?

  232. Tom R permalink
    October 11, 2021 1:19 pm

    Yes, there is. there are exemptions against wearing a mask outside

    a stray full stop ‘may’ have stopped you reading the complete piece. There is a mandate not to wear masks outside.

    The only exemption (in relation to exercise) is that it be within 5 km of your home (not your workplace)

  233. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 11, 2021 1:58 pm

    So, Tom R, do you now agree that “There is no specific written exemption for going out for lunch or coffee or a walk or a run at lunchtime when working in the city“?

  234. Tom R permalink
    October 11, 2021 2:38 pm

    Yes, I agree, so, why was he going out without a mask if there was no specific exemption? The mandate is for masks outside

  235. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 11, 2021 2:47 pm

    “Yes, I agree”

    Good. Now we know that not all exemptions are specific written exemptions.

    You might learn something about statutory interpretation if you keep this up.

    Now, just so I understand you, your proposition is that it was OK for him to go running at lunchtime but he needed to be wearing a mask while doing so?

  236. Tom R permalink
    October 11, 2021 2:58 pm

    your proposition is that it was OK for him to go running at lunchtime but he needed to be wearing a mask while doing so?

    No, you can’t go out without a mask is what I said

  237. Tom R permalink
    October 11, 2021 3:02 pm

    lols

  238. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 11, 2021 3:30 pm

    “No, you can’t go out without a mask is what I said”

    So he can go out running when at work, but he must wear a mask? What on earth are you saying?????

    The simple answer is that Perro took advice before he went out and that advice was subsequently confirmed by the police. But because you are second rate political hack you can’t accept that and you can’t even make a coherent argument to support your position.

  239. Tom R permalink
    October 11, 2021 3:43 pm

    What on earth are you saying?

    I’m typing slowly, so try reading it slowly

    “He needed a mask”

    He can pretend he had advice, but, I’m interested in what they based their advice on.

    I wonder what their advice will be for his latest breach of his own rules?

  240. Tom R permalink
    October 11, 2021 3:46 pm

    What does ‘national’ even mean these days?

  241. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 11, 2021 4:06 pm

    ““He needed a mask””

    Are you saying his crime was not wearing a mask?

    Do you think it is a reasonable interpretation of the rules to say that he can go running but must wear a mask because although running, he is more than 5k from home?

  242. Tom R permalink
    October 11, 2021 4:26 pm

    Are you saying his crime was not wearing a mask?

    From our link splats

    ‘He’s over 5kms away from his place of residence, whether you agree with the decision or not, it’s a horrible look for a state official to go against public health orders,’ one person commented on the post.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10063617/Labor-narks-try-catch-new-NSW-Premier-Dom-Perrottet-jogging-outside-5km-home-radius.html

    Do you think it is a reasonable interpretation of the rules to say that he can go running but must wear a mask because although running, he is more than 5k from home?

    It’s an impossible ‘interpretation of the rules, which clearly state exercise within 5kms of your home. He wasn’t wearing a mask either so ….. interpret that away

    And now, he’s out drinking beer while standing, which is also a clear breach of the rules.

    Of course, he will let himself off. That’s what they do. I’ll just highlight again those who assumed that would be Andrews play, when all along, it’s what the religious nutjob is doing.

  243. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 11, 2021 4:45 pm

    You’ve gone well beyond stupid on this one, Troll R.

    It is a perfectly reasonable interpretation of the rules to allow people who go to work more than 5k away to do incidental stuff at lunchtime like go for a walk or jog. If they are doing exercise they should not have to wear a mask.

    It is a stupid interpretation of the rules to say that you can go to work more than 5k away, but cannot do anything else while you are there – like go out for a jog or a walk or to eat or to have a coffee.

    Courts interpret rules to avoid stupid outcomes. Polticised idiots such as yourself interpret rules to score political points, the stupider the better, apparently.

  244. Tom R permalink
    October 11, 2021 5:00 pm

    A the person commented, it doesn’t matter if you agree with hte rules or not, or if you think that are stupid. Unfortunately, they were clear. You can go to work, but you can only exercise within 5 km of your house.

    Not sure clear rules can be interpreted any other way, but you can show me the exemption they used, it’s all |I’m asking for

  245. Tony permalink
    October 11, 2021 5:32 pm

    Day 1, Scalp 1.

    Vic Labor govt Minister Luke Donnellan has resigned today, admitting to illegal branch stacking after damning evidence begore the IBAC inquiry.

  246. October 11, 2021 5:37 pm

    So today the NSW Premier breached health orders by having a beer standing at bar. Apparently the health orders stipulate you must be seated.

    I’ll wait for YoM, ToSY and Rectum to demand his immediate resignation.

  247. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 11, 2021 5:55 pm

    “I’ll wait for YoM, ToSY and Rectum to demand his immediate resignation.”

    This is hilarious:

    NSW Premier Dominic Perrottet has been photographed standing up while drinking in a bar in an apparent breach of health orders but his office insists the bar wasn‘t open and the photo op was simply at the request of media outlets.

    I think Perro is crazy brave. He’s adopted what I think is a high-risk strategy in prioritising opening up. I hope it works – otherwise he could be a short-lived premier. OTOH, if he wins another term for the Libs he will be a legend.

    I’ll cut him some slack for now, but if he encourages the pigs to bash citizens or if our hospitals are overrun then he will deserve a good hammering.

    It will take a lot for him to catch up with Stairman Dan’s murderous rap sheet.

  248. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 11, 2021 5:58 pm

    Tom R, troll time is over. You can fuck right off now. I’ve answered all your questions. If you won’t understand the answers I can’t help you further.

  249. Tom R permalink
    October 11, 2021 6:43 pm

    I’ll wait for YoM, ToSY and Rectum to demand his immediate resignation.

    BUT HE SAID HIS LAWYERS SAID THE COPS SAID IT ALL GOOD!

    I think Perro is crazy brave.

    Is that his interpretation

  250. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 11, 2021 7:15 pm

    Who knew there is a ‘no standing’ rule in pubs?” asks NSW Premier who wrote the fucking rule

    Looks like The Chaser owe the Premier an apology. In front of that photo was a number of media microphones. It was a photo-op for the media.

  251. Tom R permalink
    October 11, 2021 7:21 pm

    It was a photo-op for the media.

    In a pub, where it is illegal to stand while drinking a beer. facepalm

  252. TB Queensland permalink
    October 11, 2021 7:37 pm

    It is a perfectly reasonable interpretation of the rules … It is a stupid interpretation of the rules … Courts interpret rules to avoid stupid outcomes.

    1. Reasonable to whom?

    2. “Stupid” always kills any interpretation argument.

    3. Courts don’t interpret rules.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Vic Labor govt Minister Luke Donnellan has resigned today, admitting to illegal branch

    Good … will he do jail time?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    but his office insists the bar wasn‘t open and the photo op was simply at the request of media outlets.

    So not only a pisspot but drinking illegally and a photo op media junky

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I think Perro is crazy brave.

    He’s a fkn rabid catlick FFS … ahhh of course.

    Tom R, troll time is over. You can fuck right off now.

    WTF do you think you are? Trump? You fuck off! No-one need’s your “help” …

    Mr Arsehole

  253. TB Queensland permalink
    October 11, 2021 7:42 pm

    New NSW Premier Dominic Perrottet has been slammed for failing to provide sign language interpretation at his two most recent Covid-19 press conferences.

    Is this bloke a protege of Smutty from Marketing? Or just a dumb Trump wanna be? (Not much difference I suppose)

    Does he know he lives in a secular society …

    https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/politics/nsw-premier-dominic-perrottet-slammed-for-holding-covid19-press-conferences-without-auslan-interpreter/news-story/3ded72dbef666c02124cc188b6365adf

  254. TB Queensland permalink
    October 11, 2021 7:51 pm

    Enter now! (If yer vaccinated)

    https://milliondollarvax.com/

  255. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 11, 2021 8:50 pm

    TomR

    It was a Photo-op

  256. Tom R permalink
    October 11, 2021 9:01 pm

    lol nil, at least yor getting into the swing of things 😉

  257. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 11, 2021 9:14 pm

    TomR

    I was talking about the photo-op. Not about his exercise more than 5km from home

  258. ivi permalink
    October 11, 2021 9:40 pm

    (Perhaps; it doesn’t matter what the DoPe appears to be doing, or even says he’s doing, if he’s Brandishing a letter from Mum (or Big O’Daddy) saying he’s actually Premier-ing wherever and whatever he’s photo-opping; cf. the Other Bloke, who usually parks and comes through the backdoors, but RealTradie knows he’s a bit insecure about being hit-up by grassrooted branch-building preference men in Make Australia Great Again hats and alt-globalist fluoros.)

  259. Tom R permalink
    October 11, 2021 9:54 pm

    You never fail to entertain nil, no matter how it’s ‘interpreted’ 😉

  260. Tom R permalink
    October 11, 2021 9:56 pm

    oooh, the pigs have used ‘discretion’ this time, not ‘interpretation’
    ROFL. What a week for hypocrisy

    https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/nsw-premier-dominic-perrottets-awkward-moment-at-reopened-pub/news-story/d2343115d2c859e4470e772a7b75a41f

  261. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 11, 2021 10:17 pm

    You never fail to entertain nil, no matter how it’s ‘interpreted

    TomR

    I think “””I didn’t break public health orders because they specifically don’t apply to me” Says Perrottet on his 2nd day as Premier””” is talking about him going more than 5kms from his home.

    I recently travelled 300kms to visit my elderly mother who needed help. That is within the rules.

    I was talking about the photo-op. Did you see the picture of him in the pub standing in front of microphones??

  262. ivi permalink
    October 11, 2021 11:35 pm

    (Did you see the picture of him in the pub standing in front of microphones??

    No-one did, according to the Premier’s office, and the popo: the DoPe was never at a pub; he was at an event staged at a pub-like place, a place which otherwise might have been a pub, and usually is a pub, and always is a pub for licensing purposes, but isn’t a pub for the especial purposes of the staging of the consumption of beer-alike props freely-provided by a publican-like recipient of a Premier’s (co)incidental reopening largesse; besides, it’s definitely someone else’s (ir)responsibility to enforce (in)discretionary penalties for those kinds of things, whatever they are/n’t.)

  263. Tom R permalink
    October 12, 2021 6:11 am

    he was at an event staged at a pub-like plac

    So, a photeasy, where a blind pig couldn’t see ya 😉

    Yes splats, of course he’s doing it on purpose. The fact that he can, and with such impunity, highlights the glaring hypocrisy of not only our media, but the moral compass off many muppets getting themselves all a lather, you particularly 😉

  264. Tom R permalink
    October 12, 2021 6:16 am

    “Interpretation”,”discretion”, pretty soon, it’ll be “putting on the full armor of God.”

  265. Tom R permalink
    October 12, 2021 7:23 am

    More discretion required

  266. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 12, 2021 8:25 am

    TB: “And BTW the vitriol 
 is getting worse everyday.”

    Also TB (in full stinking hypocrite mode):

    “WTF do you think you are? Trump? You fuck off! No-one need’s your “help” 


    Mr Arsehole”

    Welcome to the pigsty, TB! Although you are going to have to get a little more creative with your insults if you want to cut it here.

  267. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 12, 2021 8:55 am

    “No-one need’s your “help” 
”

    Some do. Particularly the idiot who wrote this:

    3. Courts don’t interpret rules.

    This is a serious contender (in a very crowded field) for the most stupid thing you’ve ever said, TB.

    There are thousands of cases where courts have interpreted rules – rules made by parliament, rules made by people and bodies with delegated rule-making authority, rules made by companies, clubs and associations – all sorts of rules.

    Now, you know I am always trying to help you better yourself, TB. So, here is a site that has a large repository of Australian legal documents including court judgments. Search for “rules”. Scan a few cases you will see what I mean.

    If you can’t be bothered doing that try this case which was the first hit among the 4000 plus cases from the High Court concerning rules.

  268. Tony permalink
    October 12, 2021 10:06 am

    1,466 new cases in Vic today. Looks like cases might be trending down. Let’s hope so. Perhaps Der Fuhrer will start releasing us from our home Stalags. Sydneysiders are drinking beer while standing I mean sitting at bars, while Melbournians are still curfewed inside after 9pm.

  269. October 12, 2021 11:18 am

    I see the fuckers football fans who entered WA without authorisation are now facing fraud charges in Darwin.

    As I may have mentioned, I know Mark Baggage and he’s an arrogant prick. So if convicted, his career as a financial planner is over.

    Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy.

  270. Tom R permalink
    October 12, 2021 11:56 am

    Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy.

    Can’t they just apply some “Interpretation” or ”discretion” perhaps?

  271. October 12, 2021 1:26 pm

    lol… 😆

  272. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 12, 2021 2:08 pm

    There are thousands of cases where courts have interpreted rules – rules made by parliament, rules made by people and bodies with delegated rule-making authority, rules made by companies, clubs and associations – all sorts of rules.

    That reminds me. I went to the local Police Station to check if my 300km trip to visit my elderly mother was OK. They told me it should be OK but i may get a police officer in a bad mood who may send me back.

    I am not sure if the Police themselves know the rules.

  273. TB Queensland permalink
    October 12, 2021 7:42 pm

    splatterbottom permalink
    October 12, 2021 8:55 am

    Welcome to the pigsty, TB! Although you are going to have to get a little more creative with your insults if you want to cut it here.

    You’re arrogance and ignorance astounds … more than your aggression … your links relate to court cases based on laws … not rules … for the ignorant … an analogy … in business protocols are expectations and should be followed … procedures must be followed … in courts, laws and regulations are determined … “rules” are not a legally defined term for examination.

    ie Duty of Care is an obligation under common law not a “rule” … once again your terminology is incorrect.

    Try attending a court or three … courts are not interested in “rules” … try regulations (as the simplest) and laws …

    Try intelligent discussion for a change.

    And read:

    Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 12, 2021 2:08 pm

    Cops interpret “rules” not judges …

  274. TB Queensland permalink
    October 12, 2021 8:07 pm

    Speaking of rules and legality and courts and judges …

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/2021/10/12/michael-pascoe-coalition-pork-barrel-building-better-regions-fund/

    Anyone spot the difference between legislation and “rules”?

  275. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 13, 2021 8:44 am

    TB, even by your standards that reply is incoherent. However, I will try again to explain matters to you, again.

    You said “3. Courts don’t interpret rules.”

    I gave you a list of categories of rules – all of which will be interpreted by courts in appropriate circumstances.

    You then said, of a case I linked to, that:

    “your links relate to court cases based on laws 
 not rules

    Funnily enough, in that same case, the court said the following:

    The allegations in form 10, which was part of the Order in Council enacting the 1975 rules, prescribe requirements for admission as effectively as if they were set out seriatim in r.38. The Supreme Court interpreted these provisions in the same way as it had interpreted the corresponding provisions of the 1896 rules

    Did you not read the judgment? Did you not understand it?

    Try intelligent discussion for a change.

    ****

    Now, to put matters into perspective you stuck your bib into a conversation I was having with Tom R concerning the interpretation of particular rules. Those particular rules were the Covid 19 rules in force in NSW. Those rules are contained in Public Health (COVID-19 General) Order 2021(as a mended). The Public Health order is an instrument of Minister Hazard under the Public Health Act 2010.

    If parties to a dispute about the meaning of the rules contained in the Public Health Order bring that matter to a court, the court will interpret those rules. For example, if somebody contests a fine, arguing that their conduct was permitted by the rules, the court will interpret the rules and examine the conduct.

    When applying the rules, the police are bound by the Court’s interpretation of them.

    So, TB, your unqualified statement that “3. Courts don’t interpret rules”:

    1. Is wrong as a general proposition. Courts regularly interpret rules of many types.

    2. Is also wrong in the specific case you were referring to when you made your idiotic comment.

  276. Tony permalink
    October 13, 2021 9:26 am

    1,571 new cases in Vic today as the state enters its 300th day of lockdown. Great work Dan!

  277. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 13, 2021 9:54 am

    300 days in lockdown! Happy anniversary!
    Thanks Dan

  278. October 13, 2021 10:42 am

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  279. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 13, 2021 10:54 am

    TB, it is no real surprise to see you look to your fellow Chimp, Neil, for support. Given that he is more stupid than you, no good will come of it.

    In particular, your statement “Cops interpret “rules” not judges 
” is classic.

    I assume you meant “Cops, not judges, interpret rules 

.”. But that statement is equally nonsensical.

    As usual, you have got this one completely arse-up. Let me explain it to you.

    1. Cops are part of the executive branch of government. The “rules” they enforce are laws.

    2. If there is a dispute as to the meaning of such a rule the cops may take a view, but ultimately it is a judge who will interpret that rule. The cop then must give effect to the rule as interpreted by the judge.

  280. Tom R permalink
    October 13, 2021 11:01 am

    Cops are part of the executive branch of government. The “rules” they enforce are laws.

    Unless, of course, they use their ‘discretion’ 😉

  281. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 13, 2021 11:15 am

    Unless, of course, they use their ‘discretion’

    If cops use their discretion to enforce something that is not a law then they are likely guilt of illegal behaviour.

    For example if a cop arrested TB for being an opinionated old bastard who is utterly incapable of ever admitting he his wrong, TB would have an action for wrongful arrest. Not because the description is inaccurate, but because there is no such law.

  282. ivi permalink
    October 13, 2021 12:20 pm

    (Not because the description is inaccurate, but because there is no such law.

    There are no rules?)

  283. Tom R permalink
    October 13, 2021 12:41 pm

    If cops use their discretion to enforce something that is not a law then they are likely guilt of illegal behaviour.

    What if they don’t enforce something?

  284. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 13, 2021 3:16 pm

    “What if they don’t enforce something?”

    They do this all the time. There are more laws than police. Police prioritise which laws they enforce. There will always be laws that are not enforced or rarely enforced.

    This is how the AFP approach this issue:

    While the AFP has primary responsibility for investigating criminal offences against the Commonwealth, it does not have the resources to investigate all reports.

    To ensure that limited resources are directed to the matters of highest priority, the AFP evaluates all matters in accordance with its Case Categorisation and Prioritisation Model (CCPM).

    The CCPM is important in giving effect to Ministerial Directions to the AFP and the AFP’s Outcome/Output Statement. It is also a valuable tool for the AFP in making decisions to accept, reject, terminate, finalise or provide resources to operational matters.

    It helps the AFP to compare and evaluate its operations from a range of perspectives, including across agencies, regions (geographic location) or teams (work groups). The CCPM also provides the AFP’s clients with a basis for considering issues before referring them to the AFP.

  285. TB Queensland permalink
    October 13, 2021 3:18 pm

    “Cops interpret “rules” not judges 
”

    Politicians (parliament) passes laws and “attach” regulations … local councils may have rules that are not laws (thus the term by-laws) and they have to be ratified by state parliaments …

    judges determine whether laws (including regulations or part thereof) have been broken … never heard a judge refer to breaking “rules” …

    Cops are part of the executive branch of government. True dat … not judges tho’ …
    Separation of Powers kicks in.

    eg Many people believe that Australian/New Zealand Standards are law … not so … they are recommended standards ie rules … until they are incorporated in law where they are identified and quoted.

    I’m suspecting the term Rule of Law might be confusing here …

    https://www.ag.gov.au/about-us/what-we-do/rule-law

  286. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 13, 2021 3:18 pm

    Link

  287. Tom R permalink
    October 13, 2021 3:59 pm

    Link

    “Any cops who failed to apprehend the perp should be dishonourably discharged.”

    Oh, how we laughed

  288. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 13, 2021 4:35 pm

    rules are rules splats, the perp in nsw broke the nsw rules splats. And his sycophantic mates let him off

    If you are talking about the current NSW premier having a beer, it was a staged media photo-op. The pub was closed. There were no patrons. Only present were politicians, the media and a bunch of microphones, cameras and journalists.

    Police discretion said that was fine. Unlike Daniel Andrews who broke the law by not wearing a mask outside.

  289. Tom R permalink
    October 13, 2021 4:57 pm

    I’m just off to the pub for a media photo-op, after going for a run more than 5kms from my home.

    Oh shit, I forgot, I’m not the Premier.

  290. October 13, 2021 4:58 pm

    It’s amazing how in this day and age of over-regulation in just about every other industry that these dodgy developers can still get away with this sort of BS.

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/state/nsw/2021/10/13/vicinity-apartments-collapse-sydney/

  291. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 13, 2021 5:03 pm

    TomR

    Yes. The NSW Premier went to an closed pub for a media photo-op. There were politicians, media, microphones, journalists and cameras. But no patrons.

    The Police said that was fine.

    And not that Jordies guy again. He was stalking some MP for years and the MP with a thin skin had enough

    Like all lefties you mislead and deceive people.

    How would you like to be stalked??

  292. Tony permalink
    October 13, 2021 6:11 pm

  293. Tom R permalink
    October 13, 2021 7:13 pm

    Police discretion said that was fine.

    Of course, the same could be said of Andrews, who was also attending a ‘photo-op’

    It’s always one rule for them, and another for the rest. Is what I am pointing out. Call it ‘discretion’, call it ‘Interpretation’, it doesn’t change that simple fact.

    He was stalking some MP for years |

    LINK!

    double the total deaths of NSW

    Thanks Federally run aged care

  294. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 13, 2021 7:22 pm

    “””Of course, the same could be said of Andrews, who was also attending a ‘photo-op’””

    I am sure the NSW Premier was wearing a mask before he went to the photo-op.

    TomR give it a miss. The NSW Premier was at a staged photo-op behind closed doors in a pub with ZERO patrons. Also there were other MPs, journalists,cameras and microphones. But zero customers.

    I think the Chaser knew they got it wrong when they posted that second picture with the NSW Premier in front of microphones. So they went with a different angle. Only rich white men can become Liberal MPs

  295. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 13, 2021 7:28 pm

    Victoria always punches above its weight. No other state has anything like our world class lockdown!

  296. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 13, 2021 7:33 pm

    I went shopping today at the local Plaza and it was really weird.

    The shops were open!!!! Have not seen that for months. i am sure the people in the small shops who were idle for those months are happy to be doing something and serving customers.

  297. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 13, 2021 8:25 pm

    Reb, your friends are going to gaol for months! It is always a mistake to associate with shady Melbourne supporters

  298. Tom R permalink
    October 13, 2021 9:31 pm

    I think the Chaser knew they got it wrong when they posted that second picture

    This is why Satire is my favourite form of comedy 🙂

  299. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 13, 2021 10:11 pm

    This is why Satire is my favourite form of comedy

    Thanks for agreeing with my suspicion.

    The left wing ALP supporting Chaser thought they had got the NSW Premier

    When the Chaser knew they had got it wrong, rather than apologise they changed the topic.

    Chaser and their supporters are deceitful people

    TomR- why do you enjoy deceiving people??

  300. Tom R permalink
    October 13, 2021 10:17 pm

    why do you enjoy deceiving people??

  301. October 14, 2021 12:08 am

    “Reb, your friends are going to gaol for months!”

    Indeed…! I’ve sent a card…

  302. Tom R permalink
    October 14, 2021 7:15 am

    lol reb 🙂

  303. Tony permalink
    October 14, 2021 9:03 am

    2,297 new cases in Vic today! Thank goodness we went into a short, sharp, 7-day lockdown so we didn’t end up like Sydney.

    Great work Dan!

  304. October 14, 2021 9:13 am

    If only Sydney had done what Melbourne did sooner we wouldn’t be in the situation we find ourselves in now.

    *This is getting repetitive and tedious. 🙄

  305. Tom R permalink
    October 14, 2021 9:17 am

    This is getting repetitive and tedious.

    And a long way to go yet.

    But, for people so attached to numbers, $40 Billion OF WASTED TAXPAYER MONEY doesn’t seem to concern them?

    Que sera, sera.

  306. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 14, 2021 9:36 am

    Yes, the world’s longest lockdown can be tedious.
    It’s the Groundhog Day of lockdowns
    If only Dan had put a ring of steel along the border instead of lecturing NSW about a ring of steel around Sydney

  307. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 14, 2021 9:38 am

    “Politicians (parliament) passes laws and “attach” regulations 
 local councils may have rules that are not laws (thus the term by-laws) and they have to be ratified by state parliaments 


    judges determine whether laws (including regulations or part thereof) have been broken 
 never heard a judge refer to breaking “rules” 
”

    TB, you are going full drongo Neil on me here. Usually at this point I wouldn’t bother replying. I’ve told you once. Either you’ve completely missed the points I’m making or you don’t want to address them in a logical way. However, out of respect for you I will give it one last go.

    As a general comment you understand the legal system about as well as a half-baked bush-lawyer, which is to say not very well at all.

    “Politicians (parliament) passes laws and “attach” regulations”

    Parliament enacts legislation. That legislation becomes law when assented to by the Crown. Parliament does not “attach” regulations. What parliament also does is delegate power to make rules and regulations (which have the force of law) to the executive branch or, occasionally, to the judicial branch.

    An example of delegation of rule-making power to the executive branch is the power granted under the Public Health Act 2010. Where the Minister considers on reasonable grounds that a situation has arisen that is, or is likely to be, a risk to public health, section 7 of the Public Health Act empowers the Minister to, by order, give such directions as the Minister considers necessary to deal with the risk and its possible consequences.

    In fact, as I have pointed out to you previously, the rules Tom R and I were discussing and which you then commented on are rules made under this legislation.

    An example of delegation to the judicial branch is the power given to judges under the various state Supreme Court Acts to make the Supreme Court Rules.

    “never heard a judge refer to breaking “rules” 
”

    So, TB is the measure of all things. If TB hasn’t heard it it can’t be true.

    Actually TB, nobody gives a flying fuck what you’ve never heard. How many of the thousands of judgments which interpret rules have you even read? Try reading this case where the courts interpret the rules of the NSWRL to determine if they have anti-competitive effect.

    Now, let’s get back to your original proposition that “Courts don’t interpret rules”. It is sad that you are constitutionally unable to admit you are wrong. Because that statement is irretrievably ignorant and totally wrong.

    It is wrong as a general proposition. And it is wrong as to the specific rules Tom R and I were discussing when you stuck your bib in.

    No doubt my attempt to educate you will only result in dismissive sneers from you. That is your MO these days.

    However, if you want to better yourself, rather than to descend into irascible senility, I implore you take a bit of time to educate yourself on the matters presently under discussion. You’ll know you are making progress when you can bring yourself to admit that your original proposition that “Courts don’t interpret rules” is wrong – and you can agree that courts often interpret all types of rules.

  308. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 14, 2021 9:41 am

    This cartoon gives an idea of where we could be heading

  309. Tony permalink
    October 14, 2021 9:45 am

  310. Tony permalink
    October 14, 2021 9:50 am

  311. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 14, 2021 9:51 am

    “If only Sydney had done what Melbourne did sooner we wouldn’t be in the situation we find ourselves in now.”

    If it didn’t work in Melbourne, why would you think it would work in Sydney?

  312. Tony permalink
    October 14, 2021 10:06 am

    Oops. Like the day he declared a ‘donut day’ and locked down the next.

  313. Tom R permalink
    October 14, 2021 10:09 am

  314. October 14, 2021 11:28 am

    “If it didn’t work in Melbourne, why would you think it would work in Sydney?”

    It didn’t work in Sydney because they didn’t do it.

    They had a chance to contain the Bondi cluster, but declined. Apparently wealth Eastern suburbs types don’t do lockdowns… 🙄

  315. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 14, 2021 11:49 am

    But, but Dan did do it – Zero Cases! And then it all went horribly wrong.

    If the esteemed Stairman knew NSW was being a laggard then he should have acted earlier to cut the virus off at the pass.

  316. ivi permalink
    October 14, 2021 12:50 pm

    (I was vaguely under the impression that: quarantine breach(es); spreading Delta across Greater Sydney and regional NSW; overwhelming NSW contract tracing; whelming the hospital system; collapsing the Oz-NZ travel bubble; highlighting the hitherto strengths of the vaccine (st)rollout; pretending that vaccinating from behind was leading the nation; (re)opening contrary to the national plan, AMA advice, sundry highly-critical Royal Commission interim recommendations; and etcetera, and etcetera; was all part of the ‘gold standard’; and spreading Delta outbreaks, small and large, to Victoria, the ACT, Queensland, SA, WA, Tasmania, and the NT, too.)

  317. October 14, 2021 2:00 pm

    What Ivi said.

    Since when did controlling an outbreak in Bondi become Dan’s responsibility? FFS. 🙄

  318. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 14, 2021 2:02 pm

    Have I mentioned…
    If only Dan had put a ring of steel along the border instead of lecturing NSW about a ring of steel around Sydney

  319. Tom R permalink
    October 14, 2021 2:25 pm

    The ring is to keep things in yomm, not out

    #justsayin

  320. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 14, 2021 2:37 pm

    “What Ivi said.”

    You understand that gobbledygook? (and I’m not talking about twinks if that’s what you’re thinking!)

    “Since when did controlling an outbreak in Bondi become Dan’s responsibility?”

    Agreed. The Stairman is only responsible for the Victorian cases.

    If the Omniscient Dear Leader thought that Gladys got Bondi wrong he should have shut the border earlier. His decision. His responsibility. His gold standard death rate.

  321. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 14, 2021 2:47 pm

    Have you experience “a ring”?

  322. Tom R permalink
    October 14, 2021 2:48 pm

    You understand that gobbledygook?

    try and interpret it, or use discretion?

  323. Tom R permalink
    October 14, 2021 2:56 pm

  324. October 14, 2021 4:34 pm

    It was meant to cloud over today and it fucking didn’t. I blame Dan Andrews.

  325. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 14, 2021 5:08 pm

    Dan’s greatest hits!
    * You can die from golf
    * I don’t remember
    * 4000 ICU beds
    * We don’t want to become like Sydney
    * A one week lockdown
    * I don’t remember that either
    * Stay the course
    * Jennifer, please step under this bus, and
    * I don’t remember

  326. Tony permalink
    October 15, 2021 9:07 am

    2,179 new cases in Vic today! Melbourne: most locked down city in the world. Victoria: most deaths, most cases and most arrogant premier in Australia.

    You’ve really fucked this up. Thanks Dan!

  327. Tom R permalink
    October 15, 2021 9:25 am

    Thanks Federally run aged care

  328. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 15, 2021 9:46 am

    “Thanks Federally run aged care”

    Diabolically clever that the Feds only screwed the Victorian pooch! Just to make Dan look bad.

  329. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 15, 2021 10:07 am

    Yes, the deaths in aged care had nothing to do with the actual outbreak…over which the government faces 58 charges

  330. Tom R permalink
    October 15, 2021 10:10 am

    Diabolically clever that the Feds only screwed the Victorian pooch!

    Now, I’m obviously not drawing a line here 😉

  331. Tom R permalink
    October 15, 2021 10:16 am

  332. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 15, 2021 10:45 am

    Dan Andrews: “What is an outstanding success 
 is the fact that we are closing in on a thousand deaths.

    “Again, I am not having a go at Sydney, but they are only about half the number of deaths and in deaths per capita the Victorian lead is even greater.”

    Massaging his crotch, the Victorian premier chortled “Victoria leads the nation, not only in Covid deaths but also in vindictive police brutality and irrational measures that destroy the mental health of young people.”

    With a voice quivering with emotion the noble Stairman continued: “Victoria is the world leader in lockdown repression, something I’m very proud of. In fact I’m honoured to be rated above my idol President Xi in this particular index of totalitarian vigour.”

  333. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 15, 2021 11:01 am

    And another of Dan’s greatest hits!
    * The curfew was required on medical advice, no..I mean police advice…no, I mean I made it up

  334. Tom R permalink
    October 15, 2021 11:22 am

    but also in vindictive police brutality

    Don’t you mean Sydney, where, if you were from Western Sydney, they maced you, and from Eastern Sydney, they just turned a blind eye?

    I see that Sydney has abandoned the National Plan scotty was so proud of .. keeping secret

  335. October 15, 2021 11:46 am

    NSW has officially abandoned the National Cabinet plan, becoming the first state to go rogue. Previously Gladys Berejiklian had committed to the plan, however, Dom Perrottet has torn it up in favour of a more “experimental” approach.

    I blame Dan Andrews.

  336. October 15, 2021 11:47 am

    oh Tom R beat me too it…

  337. October 15, 2021 11:52 am

    I’m yet to see any evidence that Dominic Perrottet wasn’t cloned from some random DNA left by John Howard.

  338. Tom R permalink
    October 15, 2021 11:57 am

    dominoes perritwot beat us both to it reb 😩

  339. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 15, 2021 12:07 pm

    “Don’t you mean Sydney”

    Nah, I mean Melbourne. Those gutless mongrel cops gave Victoria an international reputation. Pushing 70 year old women to the ground and applying a generous helping of pepper spray or slamming someone’s head into the concrete with a gutless blindside tackle. But if the demo is for a cause dear to the Stairman’s bleeding heart then the coward coppers get all docile and take a knee.

  340. Tom R permalink
    October 15, 2021 1:44 pm

    not to defend pigs, cos … they’re pigs, but ??

  341. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 15, 2021 1:46 pm

    Victoria’s Bitter Beer TV Ad – (Lockdown Version)

  342. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 15, 2021 2:50 pm

    Tom R, that twitter pic is pig propaganda. The victim was an old woman if other pictures from the rally are anything to go by:

  343. Tom R permalink
    October 15, 2021 3:19 pm

    lol porline hanson has seen better days

    but yes, the pigs are pigs, in … straya

  344. October 15, 2021 7:08 pm

    It’s good to see she brought along a change of wig.

  345. TB Queensland permalink
    October 15, 2021 7:31 pm

    As a general comment you understand the legal system about as well as a half-baked bush-lawyer, which is to say not very well at all.

    Stopped reading at that last para …

  346. TB Queensland permalink
    October 15, 2021 7:39 pm

    I’m yet to see any evidence that Dominic Perrottet wasn’t cloned from some random DNA left by John Howard.

    Praise the Bored…

  347. TB Queensland permalink
    October 15, 2021 7:44 pm

    THE NO-BRANER

    Once again our “economic managers” put the cart before the horse …

    Would you buy a car if you had to send it back to America for maintenance?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/15/inquiry-to-question-whether-australia-needs-nuclear-industry-to-support-submarine-program

    Reminder: Australia is signatory to – The Treaty of Rarotonga …

  348. TB Queensland permalink
    October 15, 2021 7:45 pm

    For those interested …

    file:///C:/Users/TB/AppData/Local/Temp/http%20__www.aphref.aph.gov.au_house_committee_jsct_nuclearnon_proliferation_subs_sub36-1.pdf

  349. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 16, 2021 9:39 am

    TB: “Stopped reading at that last para 
”

    Yeah – I predicted that:

    No doubt my attempt to educate you will only result in dismissive sneers from you. That is your MO these days.

    Quite obvious that you were never going to engage on the substantive issue. Your ego won’t let you admit that you are wrong.

  350. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 16, 2021 2:15 pm

    One paragraph is usual. It’s a question of concentration beyond the 8 minutes it took to read it.

  351. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 16, 2021 5:15 pm

    Melbourne has beaten all these cities to claim the world lockdown record!! *** This is just those starting with A, I’ll do the others later.
    A Coruña
    Aachen
    Aarhus
    Abbeville
    Aberdeen (UK)
    Aberdeen (South Dakota)
    Aberdeen (Washington)
    Abidjan
    Abilene
    Abu Dhabi
    Acapulco
    Accra
    Addis Ababa
    Adelaide
    Adelboden
    Agadir
    Agde
    Agen
    Agios Nikolaos
    Agra
    Agrigento
    Agropoli
    Ahmedabad
    Aigues-Mortes
    Aix-en-Provence
    Aix-les-Bains
    Ajaccio
    Ajman
    Akron
    Al Ain
    Alanya
    AlarĂł
    Albacete
    Albany
    Albenga
    Albi
    Albufeira
    Albuquerque
    Alcudia
    Alessandria
    Ålesund
    Alexandria
    Algeciras
    Alghero
    Alicante
    Alkmaar
    Allentown
    Almaty
    Alpe d’Huez
    Alta Badia
    Altea
    Altoona
    Amalfi
    Amarillo
    Amersfoort
    Amiens
    Amsterdam
    Anaheim
    Anchorage
    Ancona
    Andalo
    Andermatt
    Andorra la Vella
    Andratx
    Andria
    Angers
    AngoulĂȘme
    Ankara
    Ann Arbor
    Annapolis
    Annecy
    Antalya
    Antananarivo
    Antibes
    Antwerp
    Anzio
    Ao Nang
    Aosta
    Apeldoorn
    Apia
    Appleton
    Aracaju
    Arcachon
    Arenzano
    Arezzo
    Argostoli
    Arica
    Arles
    Arlington (Virginia)
    Arlington (Texas)
    Armagh
    Arnhem
    Arosa
    Arras
    Arrecife
    ArtĂ 
    Asbury Park
    Ascoli Piceno
    Ascona
    Ashdod
    Ashgabat
    Ashkelon
    Asmara
    Aspen
    Asti
    Astoria
    Athens
    Athlone
    Atlanta
    Atlantic City
    Auckland
    Augsburg
    Augusta (Georgia)
    Augusta (Maine)
    Aurora (Colorado)
    Aurora (Illinois)
    Austin
    Auxerre
    Avalon (New Jersey)
    Avalon (California)
    Aveiro
    Avellino
    Avignon
    Avoriaz
    Axamer Lizum
    Ayia Napa

  352. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 16, 2021 5:24 pm

    “It’s a question of concentration”

    Perhaps it isn’t his fault. He seems unable to complete a sentence when commenting. Time comes for us all eventually.

  353. Tom R permalink
    October 16, 2021 7:09 pm

    Melbourne has beaten all these cities to claim they have a lower death rate!! *** This is just those starting with A, maybe I’ll do the others later, but I’m hoping you get the point 😉
    *** *** This is including all of those aged pensioners abandoned by the Federal Government and saved by the State Government when the Feds said ‘CANT’
    A Coruña
    Aachen
    Aarhus
    Abbeville
    Aberdeen (UK)
    Aberdeen (South Dakota)
    Aberdeen (Washington)
    Abidjan
    Abilene
    Abu Dhabi
    Acapulco
    Accra
    Addis Ababa
    Adelaide
    Adelboden
    Agadir
    Agde
    Agen
    Agios Nikolaos
    Agra
    Agrigento
    Agropoli
    Ahmedabad
    Aigues-Mortes
    Aix-en-Provence
    Aix-les-Bains
    Ajaccio
    Ajman
    Akron
    Al Ain
    Alanya
    AlarĂł
    Albacete
    Albany
    Albenga
    Albi
    Albufeira
    Albuquerque
    Alcudia
    Alessandria
    Ålesund
    Alexandria
    Algeciras
    Alghero
    Alicante
    Alkmaar
    Allentown
    Almaty
    Alpe d’Huez
    Alta Badia
    Altea
    Altoona
    Amalfi
    Amarillo
    Amersfoort
    Amiens
    Amsterdam
    Anaheim
    Anchorage
    Ancona
    Andalo
    Andermatt
    Andorra la Vella
    Andratx
    Andria
    Angers
    AngoulĂȘme
    Ankara
    Ann Arbor
    Annapolis
    Annecy
    Antalya
    Antananarivo
    Antibes
    Antwerp
    Anzio
    Ao Nang
    Aosta
    Apeldoorn
    Apia
    Appleton
    Aracaju
    Arcachon
    Arenzano
    Arezzo
    Argostoli
    Arica
    Arles
    Arlington (Virginia)
    Arlington (Texas)
    Armagh
    Arnhem
    Arosa
    Arras
    Arrecife
    ArtĂ 
    Asbury Park
    Ascoli Piceno
    Ascona
    Ashdod
    Ashgabat
    Ashkelon
    Asmara
    Aspen
    Asti
    Astoria
    Athens
    Athlone
    Atlanta
    Atlantic City
    Augsburg
    Augusta (Georgia)
    Augusta (Maine)
    Aurora (Colorado)
    Aurora (Illinois)
    Austin
    Auxerre
    Avalon (New Jersey)
    Avalon (California)
    Aveiro
    Avellino
    Avignon
    Avoriaz
    Axamer Lizum
    Ayia Napa

  354. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 16, 2021 8:38 pm

    I think I’ve previously quoted Oscar Wilde
    “imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness.”

  355. ivi permalink
    October 17, 2021 2:09 am

    (Your ego won’t let you admit that you are wrong.

    Fascinating.)

  356. October 17, 2021 7:53 am

    The discourse at The Gutter Trash summed up in one image…

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  357. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 17, 2021 8:55 am

    This is a much more mundane question, ivi, you old fascinator.

    The question is whether there are cases where Hercules, in order to reach a decision, makes findings as to the meaning of rules. It matters not whether he has found the right meaning or even whether it is possible to do so. Nor does it matter on what basis Hercules chooses to exercise any leeways of choice open to him in interpreting those rules.

    There are such cases, some of which I’ve linked to above. TB’s assertion that “courts don’t interpret rules” is wrong. But he can’t bring himself to admit it.

  358. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 17, 2021 9:11 am

    Apparently, in Guttertrashland “calm down” when bashed out on keyboards renders as “SCOTT MORRISON/JOSH FRYDENBERG/GLADYS GERBILIKLIAN/PETER DUTTON/DOMINIC PERROTTET IS THE MOTHERFUCKING ANTI-CHRIST AND THE WORLD IS ENDING …… GAHHHHHHHHHHHH”.

  359. Tom R permalink
    October 17, 2021 1:30 pm

    “SCOTT MORRISON/JOSH FRYDENBERG/GLADYS GERBILIKLIAN/PETER DUTTON/DOMINIC PERROTTET IS THE MOTHERFUCKING ANTI-CHRIST AND THE WORLD IS ENDING 

 GAHHHHHHHHHHHH”.

    I blame Dan

    “imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness.”

    That was an elaboration, not an imitation. It’s not my fault if you cannot see the whole story

  360. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 17, 2021 1:51 pm

    Edit and repeat is imitation.
    But, while it is demonstrable that Melbourne had a longer lockdown than any of those cities, your claim is obviously not true.
    Look at the list, and you’ll find many cases of cities that are contrary to your claim

  361. Tom R permalink
    October 17, 2021 2:51 pm

    here’s a thought yomm, YOU look at the list, and show the me the ‘contrary’ ones.

  362. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 17, 2021 3:15 pm

    No need. We know that of the 528 cities in the world with a population of over a million, Melbourne has the longest lockdown!
    Champions! And it’s a record that will probably never be beaten!
    Thanks Dan

  363. Tom R permalink
    October 17, 2021 3:20 pm

    No need.

    So, you’re just talking shit again. As I presumed. Yor so predictable these days

    Thanks Dan, for saving lives, even of ungrateful sods who don’t want to realise it 😉

  364. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 17, 2021 3:35 pm

    You see, this is demonstrably bullsh*t.
    Melbourne has beaten all these cities to claim they have a lower death rate!!
    Which is why it is not very bright to imitate someone’s comment. Your lazy zealotry just compounded your stupidity

  365. Tom R permalink
    October 17, 2021 3:49 pm

    You see, this is demonstrably bullsh*t.

    I mean, you could claim it, it’s what you do, repeatedly. It would be even more impressive to prove it.

  366. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 17, 2021 4:08 pm

    The list includes Adelaide, for a start.
    Just imitating my comment is flattering to me, but doesn’t reflect well on you

  367. Tom R permalink
    October 17, 2021 4:48 pm

    lol yomm, so Adelaide, is that it. Another Australian city. Try overseas ffs

  368. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 17, 2021 5:18 pm

    No, it’s a problem when you lazily turn around comments. It’s dull
    The fact is that your laziness has made you a proven bullsh*t artist

  369. Tom R permalink
    October 17, 2021 6:41 pm

    So, out of that entire list, you could only find one city, from the same country, who followed the same guidelines, and that’s the best you can do.

    Ignore all the others that suffered all those deaths Dan Andrews saved, literally you, from. And all you can do is complain about not being able to go to the library lol

    And pointing out all those other cities isn’t ‘lazily turning around comments’, it’s simply pointing out your gross ignorance about why you are still breathing

  370. TB Queensland permalink
    October 17, 2021 7:40 pm

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/politics/australian-politics/2021/10/17/barnaby-joyce-net-zero/

    Why is this country still held to ransom by fuckwits … oh, of course dumb fuckwits enablers keep voting ’em into POWER!

  371. toiletCuckerTarlson permalink
    October 17, 2021 9:19 pm

    I’m scared to dip my toes back in…much less read back a few weeks!

  372. torletWreedomFankers permalink
    October 17, 2021 9:48 pm

    FWIW…it’s gonna cut through us like a fucking scythe…hope you don’t like people you know who are 60+…

    I tend to love my parents.

    Freedom comes at a cost.

    I can support this opinion.

    How many of you pro-freedomistas are frontline?

    I mean double vaxxed and not at all.

  373. torletEistoryHenthusiast permalink
    October 17, 2021 9:53 pm

    You seen this, TB?

    One of the lesser focussed upon engagements, the yanks have tended to occupy the narrative…coz that’s what they do.
    Made in the Netherlands, germans speak german, dutch speak dutch…about the Canadian efforts in Zeeland.

  374. torletRlogFecogniser permalink
    October 17, 2021 10:00 pm

    Hope everyone is safe and well…except scaper; hope he’s languishing at the bottom of a Crapperville mineshaft, beclouded with drosophila, yelling at the turgid sky overhead.

  375. torletowtslrigenopuc permalink
    October 17, 2021 10:06 pm

    Has anyone been watching Squid Game
?

    Haha

    I have.

    I told my agricultural (actually very liberal/progressive) brother to watch it…he said his 14yo had watched the whole thing before he’d even heard of it.

    I had to kill the English overdub.

    I loved the gratuitous violence and the inferences throughout.

  376. torletVantiAaxxer permalink
    October 17, 2021 10:11 pm

    “If any of these refuse to be vaccinated they will not be allowed to work (he doesn’t say who is supposed to enforce these orders). I sense a huge backlash.”

    It’s a couple of weeks later now.

    How’s the backlash going? Serious question.

    I work with some antivaxxers. They get angry if you want to talk about it, usually only prompted by them…they have no defensible rationalisations…their opinions against are VERY strong…

    however, I think we will see a diminishing stridence once employment is genuinely threatened.

    I am very interested in this…how has it panned out in the more vociferously mandated states so far?

    I suspect only genuine unhinged will hold out, in the end.

  377. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 17, 2021 10:46 pm

    Hi HD, I’m pro vaccination, and I wear a tee shirt that ridicules anti vaxers, so far people have been conversational and humorous about it!
    I’m planing on wearing it to the anti vaxer capital soon, and seeing what type of reaction I get there!

  378. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 17, 2021 10:49 pm

    What Tom R is really saying-
    Ok, you’ve proved my comment was bullsh*t, but I demand you prove it was double bullsh*t…or even triple!
    Hilarious!!

  379. Tom R permalink
    October 17, 2021 10:52 pm

    What Tom R is really saying- is ……… yomm can’t say ‘Thanks for saving my life Dan”

    Because all of those cities (in other countries) have had higher death rates 😉

  380. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 17, 2021 11:10 pm

    Tom R trys to make a cheap point about the world’s longest lockdown, but fails miserably because (in his rush to be a smart @rse) he doesn’t bother with annoying stuff like “details”

  381. torletDonaldDumbfuck permalink
    October 17, 2021 11:17 pm

    “I’m pro vaccination, and I wear a tee shirt that ridicules anti vaxers, so far people have been conversational and humorous about it!
    I’m planing on wearing it to the anti vaxer capital soon, and seeing what type of reaction I get there!”

    Onya.

    I have a great t-shirt…science vs fiction, which I also wear.

    Less people around here, I suppose, but not much challenge for me.

    https://www.etsy.com/au/listing/846234135/fauci-shirt-fauci-science-tshirt-dr?gpla=1&gao=1&&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_au_en_au_c-clothing-unisex_adult_clothing-tops_and_tees&utm_custom1=_k_CjwKCAjwk6-LBhBZEiwAOUUDp-X8nCxDaSs4ppR5Vbw_Jpz69sq18avA3aPHVU9MsNCPNGhVueUlSRoCBi0QAvD_BwE_k_&utm_content=go_344340728_19782563048_78803045528_pla-106553543795_c__846234135enau_102845289&utm_custom2=344340728&gclid=CjwKCAjwk6-LBhBZEiwAOUUDp-X8nCxDaSs4ppR5Vbw_Jpz69sq18avA3aPHVU9MsNCPNGhVueUlSRoCBi0QAvD_BwE

  382. October 18, 2021 7:50 am

    Squid Game is sensational, watched it with the original Korean voiceover and English subs. (It’s a cultured thing). Besides, I can’t stand dubbed American accents where everyone sounds the same.

  383. October 18, 2021 7:52 am

    With Melbourne coming out of lockdown what are YoM and ToSY gonna whinge about now?

    Why didn’t this end sooner?

    Why did Dan insist on saving so many lives closing libraries?

  384. October 18, 2021 7:54 am

    Special shout out to Gladys this morning – Happy ICAC Monday!

  385. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 18, 2021 9:07 am

    I wonder whether anyone seriously thinks the government will plead contest the 58 charges due to the negligence that caused Melbourne to experience the longest lockdown in the world

  386. Tony permalink
    October 18, 2021 9:14 am

    Lockdown (partially) ending even with another 1,903 cases. (We started this 7-day lockdown with just 40 cases.)

    A big thanks to Dom Perrottet for leading the way and shaming Dan into (ever so slightly) loosening his grip on the emergency powers he granted himself.

  387. Tom R permalink
    October 18, 2021 9:18 am

    but fails miserably because yomm cannot face the fact of the lives saved. Take Adelaide out of my fuck up, and then go with it yomm 😉

    what are YoM and ToSY gonna whinge about now?

    “A big thanks to Dom Perrottet for leading the way and shaming Dan into”

    You said …..

  388. Tony permalink
    October 18, 2021 9:29 am

    Dan’s polling has not changed

    Says Dan’s No 1 Bot. Where’s the evidence of that?

    Dan’s roadmap to reopen pre-dates both Dom Perrottet becoming premier and Sydney reopening

    But this is not that roadmap. This is a changed roadmap, hastily introduced *after* those two events.

  389. Tony permalink
    October 18, 2021 9:33 am

    (Thread keeps crashing on the phone.)

  390. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 18, 2021 9:38 am

    I only need to demonstrate one case of your bulls*t to prove your comment is bullsh*t.
    But you’re welcome to prove all those other cases are correct.

  391. Tom R permalink
    October 18, 2021 9:38 am

    Where’s the evidence of that?

    The .. polling..

    This is a changed roadmap, hastily introduced *after* those two events.

    er, the roadmap was always for when a certain percentage were vaccinated, and on advice from the modelling reflecting that

  392. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 18, 2021 9:38 am

    Kiddy-sniffer still at it:

  393. Tom R permalink
    October 18, 2021 9:40 am

    But you’re welcome to prove all those other cases are correct.

    I freely admitted I fucked up. I’ll now just say ‘the vast percentage’ of those cities.

    And that will stay, ungratefully saved citizen 😉

  394. Tony permalink
    October 18, 2021 9:54 am

    er, educate yourself! There are six major changes that were not in the original roadmap at 70%. (Go to Vic DHHS website. (I can’t link – this site won’t allow me to format atm.)

  395. Tom R permalink
    October 18, 2021 1:13 pm

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